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  • Is Romans 11:25-27 literal or metaphorical ?

    What do you think of Romans 11:25–27? Do you believe this is literal or metaphorical? Why or why not?
    Lou Newton
    Lou Newton, former Steel Mill Crane Designer and Physics Teacher
    Answered 1m ago

    Romans 11 NIV

    25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

    “The deliverer will come from Zion;
    he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
    27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
    when I take away their sins.”

    Abraham had two kinds of descendants. These are told about in Genesis 22

    15 The angel of the Lord called to Abraham from heaven a second time

    16 and said, “I swear by myself, declares the Lord, that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son, 17 I will surely bless you and makeyour descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of the cities of their enemies, 18 and through your offspring[b]all nations on earth will be blessed,[c] because you have obeyed me.”

    The sand of the sea shore was the descendants that were natural children of his flesh. This is all of the natural nation of Israel.

    The stars in the sky were all of the spiritual children who trusted in God to save them. This is spiritual Israel.

    The Messiah came and died for all to be saved. But they had to trust in Jesus alone to save them and NOT following the law to save them. No one can follow the law.

    Not all children of Abraham were children of the promise. Jacob was a child of promise and Esau was not.

    Jesus made it very clear not all Jews were children of God in John 8.

    42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.

    43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”

    So all of Israel will be saved IF you know true Israel is the spiritual children of Abraham that trust in God to save them instead of trusting in their own “good works” to save them.

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    Glen B Smith
    To:Lou Newton

    Jun 3 at 1:09 PM
    Noticed Lou's post titled

    Is Romans 11:25-27 literal or metaphorical?

    It is very odd to hear premillennial dispensationalist use Romans 9-11 as if it means all Jews will be saved during the millennium and that Israel remains the people of the Lord's preference as if the Apostle Paul did not write Romans 3:22; 10:12 "There is no difference between Jew and Gentile." This is a demonstration of how preconceived beliefs limit what can be known or even recognized.

    It seems to me that Romans 9-11 is to be taken very literally. If the issues about whether Israel is used as political Israel or as an ethnic people rather than as a spiritual people, then the answer is that the Apostle Paul's meaning is that Israel is used with each of these meanings within the context. However, the Apostle Paul's point is that the covenant is with spiritual Israel rather than Israel of the flesh. All Christians are Israel of the promise and children of Abraham.

    read Romans differently than most commentaries in that the purpose of the epistle is to address prejudice against Christian gentiles by Roman Christian Jews (There is a very large population of Jews in Rome at this time.). It appears in chapter 1 the Apostle Paul is cloaking his attack on Jewish prejudice to get the Jews to accept his argument (Romans 1:18-32). The issues detailed in this section can only be about a people who have had divine special revelation (the law) and not about those who have just general revelation from creation (which many commentaries support and even use to support a biblical example of general revelation.). When he begins chapter two he states "they" have no excuse because of the law. It only Israel who has no excuse because of the law and not gentiles. Furthermore, because the Apostle Paul has so strongly corrected the prejudice of Christian Jews in Rome, he seems to think he must make a case about the position of Israel, the covenant with Israel, and what Israel means. Romans 9-11 is this defining of a spiritual Israel rather than a political one.

    The honest Bible student recognizes the conditional requirements of the promises made to Israel as detailed in the blessing and curses of Deuteronomy 28. And if there is a significant consideration of Isaiah 59 and those passages scattered all through Jeremiah how can the Bible student not understand that political Israel has been divorced by the Lord.

    Jeremiah 3:8 "I gave faithless Israel her certificate of divorce and sent her away because of all her adulteries. Yet I saw that her unfaithful sister Judah had no fear; she also went out and committed adultery."

    Judah is even declared by the lord to be uncircumcised where it matters - in the heart.

    Jeremiah 9-25-26

    25 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will punish all who are circumcised only in the flesh— 26 Egypt, Judah, Edom, Ammon, Moab and all who live in the wilderness in distant places. For all these nations are really uncircumcised, and even the whole house of Israel is uncircumcised in heart.”

    Jesus actual said in Matthew 21:43: “Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you (Israel/Judah) and given to a people who will produce its fruit." and in Matthew 13:11 He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you (His disciples), but not to them (the unbelieving Jews).

    Despite what is recorded in the Bible many evangelicals continue to support modern Israel both financially and politically while Tel Aviv remains the number one worldwide tourist destination for homosexuals and transgenders because of its exclusive nude beach reserved for their perversion. To hear the LGBT say, We visited the holy land," as if this trip into extreme perversion can be covered as a sacred trip is quite an affront. Nothing has changed about Israel since the days of the Exodus and the days of Isaiah, Jeremiah, and the Lord Jesus. All Israel has become the Benjamites.