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What do you think of Romans 11:25–27? Do you believe this is literal or metaphorical? Why or why not?
Lou Newton, former Steel Mill Crane Designer and Physics Teacher
Answered 1m ago
Romans 11 NIV
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
Abraham had two kinds of descendants. These are told about in Genesis 22
15 The angel of the Lord called to Abraham from heaven a second time
16 and said, “I swear by myself, declares the Lord, that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son, 17 I will surely bless you and makeyour descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of the cities of their enemies, 18 and through your offspring[b]all nations on earth will be blessed,[c] because you have obeyed me.”
The sand of the sea shore was the descendants that were natural children of his flesh. This is all of the natural nation of Israel.
The stars in the sky were all of the spiritual children who trusted in God to save them. This is spiritual Israel.
The Messiah came and died for all to be saved. But they had to trust in Jesus alone to save them and NOT following the law to save them. No one can follow the law.
Not all children of Abraham were children of the promise. Jacob was a child of promise and Esau was not.
Jesus made it very clear not all Jews were children of God in John 8.
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.
43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
So all of Israel will be saved IF you know true Israel is the spiritual children of Abraham that trust in God to save them instead of trusting in their own “good works” to save them.
Lou Newton, former Steel Mill Crane Designer and Physics Teacher
Answered 1m ago
Romans 11 NIV
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
Abraham had two kinds of descendants. These are told about in Genesis 22
15 The angel of the Lord called to Abraham from heaven a second time
16 and said, “I swear by myself, declares the Lord, that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son, 17 I will surely bless you and makeyour descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of the cities of their enemies, 18 and through your offspring[b]all nations on earth will be blessed,[c] because you have obeyed me.”
The sand of the sea shore was the descendants that were natural children of his flesh. This is all of the natural nation of Israel.
The stars in the sky were all of the spiritual children who trusted in God to save them. This is spiritual Israel.
The Messiah came and died for all to be saved. But they had to trust in Jesus alone to save them and NOT following the law to save them. No one can follow the law.
Not all children of Abraham were children of the promise. Jacob was a child of promise and Esau was not.
Jesus made it very clear not all Jews were children of God in John 8.
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.
43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
So all of Israel will be saved IF you know true Israel is the spiritual children of Abraham that trust in God to save them instead of trusting in their own “good works” to save them.
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