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    What are the 7 arch angels?


    Lou Newton, former Steel Mill Crane Designer and Physics Teacher

    There are not seven archangels. Archangel means FIRST messenger, or CHIEF messenger. You can not have more than one who is FIRST or CHIEF. There is one and only one archangel and that is Michael.

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    Lou Newton
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    Whose angels are the angels in heaven. Are they not all God’s angels ? Who has all power and authority been given to ?

    MATTHEW 28:18-20 (KJV and NRSV) And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

    Rev 12: 7″ “ Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and His angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.” “

    So who is the First Angel ? Who possesses all of the angels ? NOTICE it says Michael and HIS angels.

    Angel does not mean created heavenly being, but heavenly messenger. Sometimes God sends a created angel. Sometimes God comes as the messenger Himself.

    Exodus 3 NIV

    Moses and the Burning Bush

    3 Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. 3 So Moses thought, “I will go over and see this strange sight—why the bush does not burn up.”

    4 When the Lord saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, “Moses! Moses!”

    Notice when God appears to Moses in the burning bush that He calls Himself The Angel of The Lord and then calls Himself God.

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      Originally posted by Lou Newton View Post
      Exodus 3 NIV

      Moses and the Burning Bush

      3 Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. 3 So Moses thought, “I will go over and see this strange sight—why the bush does not burn up.”

      4 When the Lord saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, “Moses! Moses!”

      Notice when God appears to Moses in the burning bush that He calls Himself The Angel of The Lord and then calls Himself God.


      I have never noticed this before! Thank you, Lou, for posting these verses. It reminds me of Isaiah 9:6...:

      For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
      and the government shall be upon his shoulder:
      and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,
      The mighty God,
      The everlasting Father,
      The Prince of Peace.

      You know not what you do because you know not who He is.
      - Paul Washer
      Satan is the angel of knowledge and he does not waste his time on anything for no reason.
      - Lou Newton

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        Originally posted by Jules View Post
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        I have never noticed this before! Thank you, Lou, for posting these verses. It reminds me of Isaiah 9:6...:

        For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
        and the government shall be upon his shoulder:
        and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,
        The mighty God,
        The everlasting Father,
        The Prince of Peace.
        Thanks for the reply Jules.

        I received this email from Glen today:

        Glen B Smith
        To:Lou Newton

        Jan 13 at 1:35 AM

        Considering your history with JW's, you might find this pertinent.

        Isaiah 43.10 Jesus cannot be formed by Jehovah and be God.


        Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Jesus is a created God by the Father who alone is Jehovah (YHWH).


        Isaiah 43:10 reveals no other god (el) was created before YHWH/Jehovah, and there will be none created after Him. The Hebrew word for formed is yastar which means to be made, created, formed, fashioned, framed.


        Isaiah 43:10 English Standard Version (ESV)

        10 “You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord (YHWH/Jehovah),
        “and my servant whom I have chosen (refers to my witnesses),
        that you (my witnesses) may know and believe me
        and understand that I am he.
        Before me no god (el) was formed (yastar),
        nor shall there be any after me
        BTW my history with the JW's is that I have invited them into my home many many times and preached the gospel to them.

        But they focus on this one passage while having preconceived beliefs about it. But they ignore the very passage you posted:

        Isaiah 9:6

        For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
        and the government shall be upon his shoulder:
        and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,
        The mighty God,
        The everlasting Father,
        The Prince of Peace.

        No passage of the Holy Scriptures contradicts another passage.

        There is one way both of these passages are true. There is One and Only One God who came down from heaven and was born of a woman to become a man to die on the cross for our sins.

        As to His Manhood, He was fully a man and His Manhood was a man and not God. His manhood was the only begotten Son of God. His Manhood died on the cross for our sins and was buried. His Manhood, and His body, was the Only begotton ( begotton means born of a woman ) Son of God. His body was formed in the womb.

        As to His Godhood, Jesus was the One and Only God our Creator and so our Father. Jesus always was the Father and always will be the Father. His Godhood did not die on the cross and in fact can not die, for He is Life. But His Godhood raised His manhood from the dead.

        John 2

        18 The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?”

        19Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”

        20 They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” 21But the temple he had spoken of was his body. 22 After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.

        There is only one way all of these scriptures can be true. The Manhood of Jesus was fully a Man and died on the cross. His body was God's Temple that God lived in on this earth. His Manhood died and His Godhood left His Temple ( His Body) and His Manhood then died.

        But His Godhood then raised His body from the dead three days later.

        Not even Lucifer ( who was the angel of knowledge) was able to conceive of God humbling Himself so much to become a puny man with flesh, that was able to die, to pay for our sin.
        Last edited by Lou Newton; January 13th, 2020, 01:59 PM.

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