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    Is America the great Babylon that is mentioned in the Book of Revelations?


    Lou Newton, former Steel Mill Crane Designer and Physics Teacher

    The short answer is no., but the US is part of Babylon the Great. The longer answer in that there are three Babylons:

    The natural city of Babylon that was in what now is Irag is the first one. It was destroyed thousands of years ago and will never be rebuilt again as God says in the Bible.

    The political Babylon ( Babylon of the soulish realm) went from Babylon to Persia to Greece to Rome to France to Britain to the US. So this was the Babylon that the US fulfilled. This was the nations that the people flocked to during their reign. These nations were the world power during their time.

    Babylon the Great in not Babylon. Alexander the Great names a different Alexander than the others and means the greatest Alexander that ever lived according to men. Babylon the Great is the Greatest Babylon according to God. It is not of the NATURAL or SOULISH realm. It has to be of the SPIRITUAL realm. The natural Babylon was only one city, the soulish Babylon was only one nation, but Babylon the Great covers the whole earth. That is what makes it Babylon the Great. It is of the SPIRITUAL realm and coves the whole earth.

    Babylon the Great is the false Christian church as opposed to the real Body of Christ. It has been spread to the whole earth.

    Revelation 16 NIV

    “17 The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and out of the temple came a loud voice from the throne, saying, “It is done!” 18 Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since mankind has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. 19 The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. 20 Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. 21 From the sky huge hailstones, each weighing about a hundred pounds, fell on people. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible. “

    Revelation 17 NIV

    Babylon, the Prostitute on the Beast

    17 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters. 2 With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.”

    3 Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5 The name written on her forehead was a mystery:

    babylon the great

    the mother of prostitutes

    and of the abominations of the earth.

    6 I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.

    When I saw her, I was greatly astonished. 7 Then the angel said to me: “Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.

    9 “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while. 11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

    12 “The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13 They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 14 They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

    15 Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. 16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled. 18 The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”

    NOTE: Babylon the Great is an ADULTERESS. That means she claims to be married to Christ, but is NOT faithful. Babylon the Great is not a religion other than Christianity, but false Christianity.

    Revelation 18 NIV

    “Lament Over Fallen Babylon

    18 After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven. He had great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his splendor. 2 With a mighty voice he shouted:

    “‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!’
    She has become a dwelling for demons
    and a haunt for every impure spirit,
    a haunt for every unclean bird,
    a haunt for every unclean and detestable animal.
    3 For all the nations have drunk
    the maddening wine of her adulteries.
    The kings of the earth committed adultery with her,
    and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.”

    Warning to Escape Babylon’s Judgment

    4 Then I heard another voice from heaven say:

    “‘Come out of her, my people,’
    so that you will not share in her sins,
    so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
    5 for her sins are piled up to heaven,
    and God has remembered her crimes.
    6 Give back to her as she has given;
    pay her back double for what she has done.
    Pour her a double portion from her own cup.
    7 Give her as much torment and grief
    as the glory and luxury she gave herself.
    In her heart she boasts,
    ‘I sit enthroned as queen.
    I am not a widow;
    I will never mourn.’

    8 Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her:
    death, mourning and famine.
    She will be consumed by fire,
    for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.

    Threefold Woe Over Babylon’s Fall

    9 “When the kings of the earth who committed adultery with her and shared her luxury see the smoke of her burning, they will weep and mourn over her. 10 Terrified at her torment, they will stand far off and cry:

    “‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
    you mighty city of Babylon!
    In one hour your doom has come!’

    11 “The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes anymore— 12 cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linen, purple, silk and scarlet cloth; every sort of citron wood, and articles of every kind made of ivory, costly wood, bronze, iron and marble; 13 cargoes of cinnamon and spice, of incense, myrrh and frankincense, of wine and olive oil, of fine flour and wheat; cattle and sheep; horses and carriages; and human beings sold as slaves.

    14 “They will say, ‘The fruit you longed for is gone from you. All your luxury and splendor have vanished, never to be recovered.’ 15 The merchants who sold these things and gained their wealth from her will stand far off, terrified at her torment. They will weep and mourn 16 and cry out:

    “‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
    dressed in fine linen, purple and scarlet,
    and glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls!
    17 In one hour such great wealth has been brought to ruin!’

    “Every sea captain, and all who travel by ship, the sailors, and all who earn their living from the sea, will stand far off. 18 When they see the smoke of her burning, they will exclaim, ‘Was there ever a city like this great city?’ 19 They will throw dust on their heads, and with weeping and mourning cry out:

    “‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
    where all who had ships on the sea
    became rich through her wealth!
    In one hour she has been brought to ruin!’

    20 “Rejoice over her, you heavens!
    Rejoice, you people of God!
    Rejoice, apostles and prophets!
    For God has judged her
    with the judgment she imposed on you.”

    The Finality of Babylon’s Doom

    21 Then a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and threw it into the sea, and said:

    “With such violence
    the great city of Babylon will be thrown down,
    never to be found again.
    22 The music of harpists and musicians, pipers and trumpeters,
    will never be heard in you again.
    No worker of any trade
    will ever be found in you again.
    The sound of a millstone
    will never be heard in you again.
    23 The light of a lamp
    will never shine in you again.
    The voice of bridegroom and bride
    will never be heard in you again.
    Your merchants were the world’s important people.
    By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.
    24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of God’s holy people,
    of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.” “

    What city killed all the prophets and apostles of God. Well that city was first Jerusalem and then went to Rome, then spread to the whole earth,

    Luke 13 NIV

    “Jesus’ Sorrow for Jerusalem

    31 At that time some Pharisees came to Jesus and said to him, “Leave this place and go somewhere else. Herod wants to kill you.”

    32 He replied, “Go tell that fox, ‘I will keep on driving out demons and healing people today and tomorrow, and on the third day I will reach my goal.’ 33 In any case, I must press on today and tomorrow and the next day—for surely no prophet can die outside Jerusalem!

    34 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 35 Look, your house is left to you desolate. I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’” “

    Of course the real PROPHET of God who is Jesus Christ was condemned to death in Jerusalem.

    But there is hope far all by the blood of Jesus:

    1 John 1 NIV

    5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. 6 If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.

    8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.

    A sinner saved by grace alone

    His Bond Servant

    Lou Newton

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    Ronald ...........
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    You are wrong as Rome is no longer the superpower prophesied for destruction in Revelation. The scriptures in Jeremiah 50, Daniel 7 and Revelations 18–22 clearly describe the New Mystery Babylon. The New Babylon will be very powerful and it sits on the 7 headed dragon with 10 horns (becoming the queen of nations until its overthrow in the last days) . This is the European Federation which conquered the fourth corner of the world, Americas; and established the new Babylon. The new Babylon will be a leading trading merchant, selling luxury goods to the entire world. The new Babylon will show the world many wonders including dropping fire from the sky (Hiroshima and Nagasaki Nukes), and it will be a technological and military superpower. New Babylon will also be the haven for wickedness and perversion, becoming a world leader and influencing the entire world to drink from its cup. This cup of wickedness includes racial discrimination of God’s elect, and wicked practices of Sodom and Gomorrah which now include sex changes, gayism, atheism/scientology and abortion. Babylon will deceive the entire world into worshipping its wicked ways and its power. The Messiah’s second coming is to redeem his people in captivity in Babylon. African Hebrew slaves are the last people still in captivity in Babylon, and without their own nation, armies and leaders. The Messiah will thus destroy Babylon to redeem his people and return them to their father’s homeland/Zion/New Heaven on Earth. Afrika. This is written very clearly in the scriptures, and all with ears and God’s grace and understanding will get it. May God’s will manifest.

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      Originally posted by Lou Newton View Post

      Ronald ...........
      ·Did you even read my post. I never said Rome was the power you claim.

      You are wrong as Rome is no longer the superpower prophesied for destruction in Revelation. The scriptures in Jeremiah 50, Daniel 7 and Revelations 18–22 clearly describe the New Mystery Babylon. The New Babylon will be very powerful and it sits on the 7 headed dragon with 10 horns (becoming the queen of nations until its overthrow in the last days) . This is the European Federation which conquered the fourth corner of the world, Americas; and established the new Babylon. The new Babylon will be a leading trading merchant, selling luxury goods to the entire world. The new Babylon will show the world many wonders including dropping fire from the sky (Hiroshima and Nagasaki Nukes), and it will be a technological and military superpower. New Babylon will also be the haven for wickedness and perversion, becoming a world leader and influencing the entire world to drink from its cup. This cup of wickedness includes racial discrimination of God’s elect, and wicked practices of Sodom and Gomorrah which now include sex changes, gayism, atheism/scientology and abortion. Babylon will deceive the entire world into worshipping its wicked ways and its power. The Messiah’s second coming is to redeem his people in captivity in Babylon. African Hebrew slaves are the last people still in captivity in Babylon, and without their own nation, armies and leaders. The Messiah will thus destroy Babylon to redeem his people and return them to their father’s homeland/Zion/New Heaven on Earth. Afrika. This is written very clearly in the scriptures, and all with ears and God’s grace and understanding will get it. May God’s will manifest.


      Lou Newton
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      Your should study and pray about the numerous times the Lord prophesied about the sun turning dark and the moon turning blood red. The sun turns dark when the moon comes in between the sun and the earth. The moon turns blood red when the earth comes between the sun and the moon. The sun is a shadow of Christ as our only source of light. The moon is a shadow of the church as it reflects the light from the sun to the world. The earth is of course the world. The moon always has the same side turned toward the world. The world only sees this side and does not see the other side. The world sees the side that is focused on the world. That is the false church. The world does not see the other side which is the true body of Christ. The false church is focused on the world and blocks the light from the sun ( Christ) to the world. The true body of Christ is not seen by the world and is focused on the sun ( Christ)

      During and eclipse of the moon the world blocks the light of Christ from the moon. The false church will be in darkness and turn blood red with the spirit of murder. Jesus said father against son etc. The other side of the moon is bathed in light from the sun ( Christ) during this eclipse. True followers of Christ walk in the light and are not in darkness or slavery. I am a bond servant of Christ and not a slave to the world or even to the church.

      BTW, you have misquoted the title of the Revelation. It is not the Book of Revelations. It is not plural but singular. The first words of the Book explain why. "The revelation of Jesus Christ,". It is not about future events. It is about The Revelation of Jesus Christ. NOT a revelation from Christ, but a revelation of Christ. Christ is the one being revealed. It is about the person of Christ, not events.

      It is not about the future, or about time. It is about Christ. The whole Bible is about Christ. We see in verse 4 - Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, It is about the revelation of Christ which took place in the past, is taking place in the present, and will take place in the future.

      Many seem to want to teach but have need to be taught. For 45 years I have sat under the very best teacher that ever taught. I do not write about my opinions, or the opinions of mere men, or the opinions of groups of men. Jesus warned not to follow the traditions of men.
      Last edited by Lou Newton; December 13, 2020, 11:13 PM.

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