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    Here is an article that I found interesting:



    The FALSE PROPHET
    by Art Katz

    In Jeremiah chapter 23, God gives us a powerful statement about
    true and false prophets. Talk about an indictment! It is one thing
    to have an indictment against Israel, but when you begin to indict
    the prophets of Israel, when the loftiest and the best and the
    noblest thing has become the most profane, then that must be
    a symbol or a statement of the low condition of a nation prior to
    its judgment.

    There is a conjunction between prophet and priest:
    "The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule on their own
    authority; and My people love it so!" (Jer.5:31a).

    It is remarkable how self-serving this reciprocal thing is between
    heads of movements or fellowships and the false prophets, and
    how comfortable they are with one another and how they affirm
    one another.
    The people are in an unspoken agreement with their
    ministers: "You present a biblical message. We will pay the bill
    and have a Sunday service that will leave our lives free from any
    kind of demand that would really touch our true vested interest
    and value. We don't want a message that is going to challenge
    where our heart really is. We want to be able to say, 'Amen' and
    'We've been to church'"-and that kind of thing. As the priest, so
    also the people. As the pastor/preacher, so also the congregation.
    Into that situation we have to come prophetically - and likely be stoned!

    '"Therefore their way will be like slippery paths to them, they will
    be driven away into the gloom and fall in it; for I shall bring calamity
    upon them, the year of their punishment," declares the LORD' (v. 12).

    It implies that there is not an immediate judgment, but that there
    is an appointed time in which God judges those that profane His
    house-those who originally had authentic and holy callings. That
    may well be why the Lord is allowing to continue that which is
    presently being called prophetic and is so popular, but for them,
    as with the priests and prophets of old, there will be a year of
    visitation or a time when God calls a halt.

    There is a consequence for false prophecy. It will affect the entire
    nation and therefore the entire church by the same principle.


    "' Thus says the LORD of hosts, 'Do not listen to the words of
    the prophets who are prophesying to you...'" (vs. 15-16a).

    Notice that God still calls them prophets. It is maybe because
    the gifts and callings of God are irrevocable. They still retain their
    official title, but what they are performing under that title is in God's
    sight an abomination. There is nothing more profane than when
    the sacred is no longer authentically sacred. When we take the
    sacred phrase, 'Thus says the Lord' and merely employ it as a
    device to win the attention of our hearers, then we are desecrating
    the sacred. We are making the sacred profane and once we have
    done that, what else can be hoped for? If we are not as a priestly
    people setting forth the distinction between the profane and the
    sacred, what can be hoped for in the world? The ramifications of
    what we are talking about are beyond any full grasp.

    "They keep saying to those who despise Me, 'The LORD has
    said, 'You will have peace'; and as for everyone who walks in the
    stubbornness of his own heart, they say, 'Calamity will not come
    upon you.'"
    (v.16b-17).

    This must be the very quintessence of what a false prophet is,
    namely, the giving of a false comfort and a false assurance of
    peace that does not regard the truth of the conditions that need
    to be faced.
    It is an unwillingness to bring a hard word. The things
    that are prophesied are normally flattering and encouraging to the
    flesh, rather than challenging or threatening. False prophets have
    historically prophesied peace when there is no peace
    . 'Calamity
    will not come upon you' is unhappily the kind of prophetic statement
    that is coming forth even today, especially in Israel. They are giving
    a false comfort to those who are not even properly aligned to God.

    Humanly speaking, we would not see these people as those who
    despise God. God sees them, however, as despising Him and we
    need to see it as He sees it. The false prophets are actually
    bringing a kind of encouragement to those people who are already
    out of right relationship with God and give them an assurance that
    their relationship with God is in order.

    "But who has stood in the council of the LORD...?"

    Moses, who wrote the five books of Moses, could say of himself
    that he was the humblest man on the face of the earth. That is
    true humility, where we are devoid of any sense of spiritual self-
    consciousness. We can merely state the fact of something without
    any effect upon ourselves,because the humility is not a statement
    to our honor. Humility is not something that man can work up by
    himself on the earth and develop as a character trait. Humility is
    what God is in Himself,
    and the only one who will display and
    exhibit it, is that one who has been consistently in the presence
    of God. It is humbling to be there
    and that is why Moses could
    state it not as a credit to himself, but to God, out of whose
    presence that humility was established. God requires still that
    His prophetic men be in His presence.

    I want to say that there is nothing more difficult for anyone than
    this requirement. Everything contends against it-the dinner bell,
    the faucet is dripping, the light bulb needs to be changed, the
    dogs need to be fed - a thousand things continually nipping at
    you that require attention. Even if that were not so, there is
    something about the pulse of the flesh itself that is inimical and
    opposed to seeking the Lord. Seeking the Lord is an extraordinarily
    difficult thing and few have sufficeint incentive. It is a suffering,
    and in fact, just to be more ruthlessly honest, it is a dying. Living
    on the earth, in the flesh, in the world and in time, and to confide
    and to commune with God, is an extraordinary and ultimate
    attainment. If you attain it, then maintain it, because you do not
    want to have to do it all over again. Can you maintain it and still
    go to last night's birthday party, and dancing, and hooting, and
    singing, and stomping and not lose it or be jarred from your
    sensitive spiritual place by what seems to be just a time of fun?
    We are talking about something very critical. I would not expect
    in the earth today many men who are in this place. What then
    shall we say for the whole rash of prophets that have arisen in
    recent years for there are many men professing to be prophets,
    but are we hearing the council of God? God's judgment about
    the failure to obtain His word in that place is severe.

    We can know when the word is out of the council of God because
    it has this salutary effect. It will affect the nation or fellowship in
    turning it toward God, rather than away from Him and from their
    evil ways and their practices. I can remember a full gospel breakfast
    where the speaker was from Sweden, a leading evangelical
    personality, but it could have been anywhere. He was wearing a
    Gucci shirt and tie and a silk-type suit, and he began by saying,
    "The Lord has spoken to me this morning and given me a word for
    you." I leaned forward to catch every syllable that had come from
    the heart of God. As I heard it, however, there was nothing from
    God at all, but clichés, evangelical phrases and full gospel hogwash.
    The men who were hearing that word that morning, and nodding
    their heads, and "amening", applauding and affirming, need to
    know that there are consequences when we allow that kind of
    monumental lie to be expressed and not to be contradicted. It will
    deaden and dull our sensitivity so that the next time we will be
    an even greater candidate for deception for anything that comes
    down the pike.

    There needed to be someone in that audience that morning to
    get up and say, "I am sorry for whatever pain and dislocation I
    am going to cause, but I cannot allow that phrase and that
    statement to be made in our hearing without being contested.
    That was not the word of God and we dare not allow that kind
    of terminology to be employed merely to sanctify or to give a
    kind of credibility to what is otherwise just an ordinary statement."
    How often is that being done and to what extent has our failure
    to do so had a negative effect on the church today? We have
    paid much for cheap, casual references to God, as if we could
    invoke Him at pleasure or say, "God gave", when He did not give.

    The same ones who will dismiss God rudely are the same ones
    who will invoke Him lightly. Prophets are called to come into that
    whole scenario, and bring the sword of the Lord, and bring the
    fear of the Lord, and the truth of the Lord to people who have been
    long spoiled by such cheapy things as I am now describing, and
    as every one of us at one time or another, more than we would
    like, have experienced. This is why we have anguished and God
    is calling a halt.

    That is why there are false prophets. That is why, if I can say it,
    the Charismatic and kindred movements themselves are kind of
    false movements, wanting the effulgence of the Spirit and the
    excitement and the activity, but evading the cross and the
    necessity for suffering out of which the Spirit of God is given as
    solace, comfort and power.
    We come back again and again to
    the cross. The false prophet speaks words of comfort when God
    would not have His people to be comforted, but to be agitated.
    True prophets can bear the reprisal, the rejection and the
    mortification of that word coming back into their own teeth
    . They
    can bear giving the word and then someone cueing the piano
    player to drown it out.

    Prophetic anguish is to bring the word of God and then to have it
    refused and come right back into your teeth. It is mortifying and
    the antithesis of the joy and the gratification that comes when
    the word of God flows out of you, and through, and into the people
    who are receiving it. That is like tonic for your soul. We have to
    be as willing for the one as the other, or we will not speak the
    other. The call to the prophet is the call to the cross. It is a
    frequent, if not continual form of suffering of an exquisite and
    ultimate kind. Can we say, "Thus says the Lord" without actually
    articulating those words or implying those words in your statement,
    except that your word has come through the cross? It is out of
    a death. It is not your own word, but His, which can only come
    from that cross-centered place. That was true for the prophets
    before the advent of the cross. Elijah preceded the cross, but
    he knew the death of it when he said, "...there shall be neither
    dew nor rain these years, except by my word." Jesus knew the
    cross before He knew the cross. The cross only exemplified and
    made visible the thing to which His life was all along submitted.
    Last edited by Lou Newton; September 1, 2016, 10:58 AM.

  • #2
    There is a lot to think about. Thanks, Lou.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Baruch View Post
      There is a lot to think about. Thanks, Lou.
      Thanks for the reply Barry.

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      • #4
        I usually see an emphasis on false prophets who give good reports.

        But we also see lots of false prophets today giving evil reports. This was apparently true in Paul's day (2Th 2:2). And Jesus warned there would be (Mat 24:23; Mar 13:21); or maybe in the opinion of some these would be good reports.
        Last edited by Baruch; September 2, 2016, 06:47 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Baruch View Post
          I usually see an emphasis on false prophets who give good reports.

          But we also see lots of false prophets today giving evil reports. This was apparently true in Paul's day (2Th 2:2). And Jesus warned there would be (Mat 24:23; Mar 13:21); or maybe in the opinion of some these would be good reports.
          Maybe in both cases they tell people what they want to hear. I can think of one that always was having dreams and visions he claimed that were from the Lord. These dreams were mostly how The Lord was going to destroy the US. I think many people wanted to hear how God was going to punish those "evil" people. It is good news to them. He attracted a lot of attention, but none of his dreams came true.

          This is what they Lord says about these people who think this is good news to them:

          Amos 5 The Day of the Lord

          18Woe to you who long
          for the day of the Lord!

          Why do you long for the day of the Lord?
          That day will be darkness, not light.
          19 It will be as though a man fled from a lion
          only to meet a bear,
          as though he entered his house
          and rested his hand on the wall
          only to have a snake bite him.
          20 Will not the day of the Lord be darkness, not light—
          pitch-dark, without a ray of brightness?

          21 “I hate, I despise your religious festivals;
          your assemblies are a stench to me.
          22 Even though you bring me burnt offerings and grain offerings,
          I will not accept them.
          Though you bring choice fellowship offerings,
          I will have no regard for them.
          23 Away with the noise of your songs!
          I will not listen to the music of your harps.
          24 But let justice roll on like a river,
          righteousness like a never-failing stream!

          25 “Did you bring me sacrifices and offerings
          forty years in the wilderness, people of Israel?
          26 You have lifted up the shrine of your king,
          the pedestal of your idols,
          the star of your god—
          which you made for yourselves.

          27 Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,”
          says the Lord, whose name is God Almighty.

          They think they are an exception to this word from the Lord. They think they can long for the day of the Lord and claim they are not doing so, OR that the Lord will not be displeased with them. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THIS WORD FROM GOD.

          The Lord seems to have sent me to a lot of places where men were preaching great errors. I would be able to preach the truth there for a time. But eventually they all would ask me to leave, or ban me. The Truth seemed to be in opposition to their preaching. At every place many of the people could not tolerate what The Lord gave me to preach. BUT there was always a few that could hear and they are why I was sent there.

          Many are drawn to lies, but few are drawn to the Truth. That is the way Jesus said it would be.

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          • #6
            Amen Lou amen.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Steve Hollander View Post
              Amen Lou amen.
              Thanks for the reply Steve.

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