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What kind of animals were the Behemoth and Leviathan in Job ?

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    What species could the Behemoth described in job Chapter 40 and the Leviathan in job 41? Are they dinosaurs? Why do some people believe they were an Alligator and an Elephant when their descriptions bares no similarity to said species?

    Lou Newton, former Steel Mill Crane Designer and Physics Teacher

    Job 40 NIV

    “15 “Look at Behemoth,
    which I made along with you
    and which feeds on grass like an ox.
    16 What strength it has in its loins,
    what power in the muscles of its belly!
    17 Its tail sways like a cedar;
    the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
    18 Its bones are tubes of bronze,
    its limbs like rods of iron.
    19 It ranks first among the works of God,
    yet its Maker can approach it with his sword.
    20 The hills bring it their produce,
    and all the wild animals play nearby.
    21 Under the lotus plants it lies,
    hidden among the reeds in the marsh.
    22 The lotuses conceal it in their shadow;
    the poplars by the stream surround it.
    23 A raging river does not alarm it;
    it is secure, though the Jordan should surge against its mouth.
    24 Can anyone capture it by the eyes,
    or trap it and pierce its nose? “

    Job 41 NIV

    41]“Can you pull in Leviathan with a fishhook
    or tie down its tongue with a rope?
    2 Can you put a cord through its nose
    or pierce its jaw with a hook?
    3 Will it keep begging you for mercy?
    Will it speak to you with gentle words?
    4 Will it make an agreement with you
    for you to take it as your slave for life?
    5 Can you make a pet of it like a bird
    or put it on a leash for the young women in your house?
    6 Will traders barter for it?
    Will they divide it up among the merchants?
    7 Can you fill its hide with harpoons
    or its head with fishing spears?
    8 If you lay a hand on it,
    you will remember the struggle and never do it again!
    9 Any hope of subduing it is false;
    the mere sight of it is overpowering.
    10 No one is fierce enough to rouse it.
    Who then is able to stand against me?
    11 Who has a claim against me that I must pay?
    Everything under heaven belongs to me.

    12 “I will not fail to speak of Leviathan’s limbs,
    its strength and its graceful form.
    13 Who can strip off its outer coat?
    Who can penetrate its double coat of armor?
    14 Who dares open the doors of its mouth,
    ringed about with fearsome teeth?
    15 Its back has rows of shields
    tightly sealed together;
    16 each is so close to the next
    that no air can pass between.
    17 They are joined fast to one another;
    they cling together and cannot be parted.
    18 Its snorting throws out flashes of light;
    its eyes are like the rays of dawn.
    19 Flames stream from its mouth;
    sparks of fire shoot out.
    20 Smoke pours from its nostrils
    as from a boiling pot over burning reeds.
    21 Its breath sets coals ablaze,
    and flames dart from its mouth.
    22 Strength resides in its neck;
    dismay goes before it.
    23 The folds of its flesh are tightly joined;
    they are firm and immovable.
    24 Its chest is hard as rock,
    hard as a lower millstone.
    25 When it rises up, the mighty are terrified;
    they retreat before its thrashing.
    26 The sword that reaches it has no effect,
    nor does the spear or the dart or the javelin.
    27 Iron it treats like straw
    and bronze like rotten wood.
    28 Arrows do not make it flee;
    slingstones are like chaff to it.
    29 A club seems to it but a piece of straw;
    it laughs at the rattling of the lance.
    30 Its undersides are jagged potsherds,
    leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge.
    31 It makes the depths churn like a boiling caldron
    and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment.
    32 It leaves a glistening wake behind it;
    one would think the deep had white hair.
    33 Nothing on earth is its equal—
    a creature without fear.
    34 It looks down on all that are haughty;
    it is king over all that are proud.”

    God inspired men to write The Holy Scriptures. But before men wrote The Holy Scriptures God revealed His glory to men by His creation. His creation is also His Holy Creation. God reveals truth to men who look for the truth by studying His creation.

    God put man in a place where he could see most of the entire universe. This is a very rare position. For most star systems in our galaxy can not see very far around it from the dust that is surrounding it. We are in between the arms of the galaxy in an almost empty region. So we can see almost all of the universe. God put man there so he could see the universe.

    God also made light so that is left a fingerprint of which element it came from. Plus we have been able to calculate the speed of light very accurately. God created math and man discovered His math. We can use that math to calculate how far stars are from our solar system. God also made light so that is left a red or blue shift depending on if it is going away from us or toward us.

    From all these laws of God man has calculated that the universe is very very large. We are looking back in time when we look out at the stars. The light that we see left billions of years ago to get to the earth.

    God’s math that ruled how the sun made energy was discovered a few decades ago. We have proved that math is correct by exploding hydrogen bombs and they have gone according to what the math predicted. We are pretty sure our Sun is about 4.6 billion years old. The universe is much older. The beginning was almost 14 billion years ago. God made these laws, not man. God’s laws are constant and dependable. We can depend of His laws.

    I do not depend on the men that study these laws. I depend of the God that made these laws.

    The 6 days of creation in the Bible are very accurate accounts. The “days” are not earth days like the man who called himself Pope declared. He also declared that the earth was at the center of the universe. We found out a few years later that the sun is at the center of our solar system, not the earth. There is absolutely no reason to call them earth days. In fact God left no doubt that He was not speaking of earth days:

    Genesis 1 NIV

    “1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

    3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day. “

    Now from evening ( darkness) to morning ( light) is NOT 24 hours. Any child knows that, let alone adults that claim to be educated. It could be an hour or 12 hours, but not 24. From sunup to sunup is 24 hours, not sundown to sunup.It is NOT an earth day. It is not a measure of time at all. But God is simply saying that is was dark and He made light for us.

    I have seen layers of Dinos in Dino national park and they are buried under many layers. The layers covering the dinos contain other kind of mammals, but no dinos. Dinos did not walk the earth at the time man did. God made many laws that reveal how long ago dinos walked the earth and it was millions of years ago.

    If David had walked the earth with dinos he would not boast about killing the lion and the bear. That would be like boasting about killing the mouse and the shrew if dinos were still here. Cites would not have built walls that dinos could have crashed right through. Most of the walls would have been useless against dinos.

    So I do not know for sure what kind of animal God is referring to in Job. But it was not a dino.

    Look at verse 41:8

    8 If you lay a hand on it,
    you will remember the struggle and never do it again!
    9 Any hope of subduing it is false;

    It implies that the man survives the struggle. Maybe a croc; they get very large and I would not want to mess with one. A man would not survive a struggle with a dino. A man can run from a croc, but not a dino. You do not want to get too close to a croc. They are very quick for a few yards. But most men can out run them for a distance.

    God is simply pointing out that there are animals He created to be tamed and others that we are not able to tame. If Job can not tame the wildest of CREATED beasts, how can he tame their Creator.

    Also remember that we could call a very large croc a Behemoth and a Leviathan. Many large animals have certainly been called both names. God could simply be reminding Job of a very large croc he had seen in the Jordan river and was afraid to even approach it. So why did Job not have at least as much fear for the Creator of the croc ?

    God is simply pointing out to Job that he can not even tame mere animals and he certainly can not understand God. The animals are below mankind. But God is far above us. Job repented after God spoke to him.

    Romans 11 NIV

    33 Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God!
    How unsearchable his judgments,
    and his paths beyond tracing out!
    34 “Who has known the mind of the Lord?
    Or who has been his counselor?”
    35 “Who has ever given to God,
    that God should repay them?”
    36 For from him and through him and for him are all things.
    To him be the glory forever! Amen.

    A sinner save by grace alone

    His Bond Servant

    Lou newton
    Last edited by Lou Newton; February 26, 2020, 08:01 PM.