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    Revelation 1

    New American Standard Bible 1995

    The Revelation of Jesus Christ

    1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, Note: The Book is not about events that take place in the future. It is not Revelations from Jesus - but The Revelation of Jesus. Notice is not plural, but singular. Not from but of.

    It is not only about the future, but about the past, present and future:

    8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

    Revelation 6

    New American Standard Bible 1995

    The First Seal—Rider on White Horse

    6 Then I saw when the Lamb broke one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures saying as with a voice of thunder, “Come.” 2 I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.

    The Second Seal—War

    3 When He broke the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, “Come.” 4 And another, a red horse, went out; and to him who sat on it, it was granted to take peace from the earth, and that men would slay one another; and a great sword was given to him.

    The Third Seal—Famine

    5 When He broke the third seal, I heard the third living creature saying, “Come.” I looked, and behold, a black horse; and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. 6 And I heard something like a voice in the center of the four living creatures saying, “A [d]quart of wheat for a [e]denarius, and three [f]quarts of barley for a [g]denarius; and do not damage the oil and the wine.”

    The Fourth Seal—Death

    7 When the Lamb broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come[h].” 8 I looked, and behold, an [i]ashen horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with [j]pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.

    The Fifth Seal—Martyrs

    9 When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained; 10 and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O [k]Lord, holy and true, [l]will You refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 And there was given to each of them a white robe; and they were told that they should rest for a little while longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren who were to be killed even as they had been, would be completed also.

    The Sixth Seal—Terror

    12 I looked when He broke the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth made of hair, and the whole moon became like blood; 13 and the stars of the sky fell to the earth, as a fig tree casts its unripe figs when shaken by a great wind. 14 The sky was split apart like a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 Then the kings of the earth and the great men and the [m]commanders and the rich and the strong and every slave and free man hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains; 16 and they *said to the mountains and to the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the [n]presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; 17 for the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

    Now ask yourself, when did WAR, FAMINE, DISEASE, MARTYRS, and TERROR come upon the earth. Of course they have been here almost all of the time man has been here.

    Jeremiah 28

    5 Then the prophet Jeremiah replied to the prophet Hananiah before the priests and all the people who were standing in the house of the Lord.

    6 He said, ‘Amen! May the Lord do so! May the Lord fulfil the words you have prophesied by bringing the articles of the Lord’s house and all the exiles back to this place from Babylon.

    7 Nevertheless, listen to what I have to say in your hearing and in the hearing of all the people:

    8 from early times the prophets who preceded you and me have prophesied war, disaster and plague against many countries and great kingdoms. ( Some translations say ALWAYS prophesied)

    9 But the prophet who prophesies peace will be recognised as one truly sent by the Lord only if his prediction comes true.’

    So let us go to one of the very first prophecies from God Himself

    Genesis 3
    14 So the Lord God said to the snake, ‘Because you have done this,

    ‘Cursed are you above all livestock
    and all wild animals!
    You will crawl on your belly —disease
    and you will eat dust——famine
    all the days of your life.
    15 And I will put enmity
    between you and the woman,—- war
    and between your offspring[ and hers;
    he will crush your head,
    and you will strike his heel.’

    16 To the woman he said,

    ‘I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;—-DISEASE
    with painful labour you will give birth to children.
    Your desire will be for your husband,—-FAMINE
    and he will rule over you.’—-WAR

    17 To Adam he said, ‘Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, “You must not eat from it,”

    ‘Cursed is the ground because of you;
    through painful toil you will eat food from it——WAR
    all the days of your life.
    18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,—FAMINE
    and you will eat the plants of the field.
    19 By the sweat of your brow
    you will eat your food
    until you return to the ground,
    since from it you were taken;
    for dust you are
    and to dust you will return.’——FINAL DISEASE -DEATH

    Did not the Lord Jesus ride into the garden, wearing a crown. Did He did He not shoot 3 arrows from His bow into each one.

    Was not Able the first MARTYR. Did not TERROR comeupon the earth in the flood that killed all but 8

    So when did the Revelation of Jesus begin:

    Psalm 19

    For the director of music. A psalm of David.

    1 The heavens declare the glory of God;
    the skies proclaim the work of his hands.
    2 Day after day they pour forth speech;
    night after night they reveal knowledge.
    3 They have no speech, they use no words;
    no sound is heard from them.
    4 Yet their voice goes out into all the earth,
    their words to the ends of the world.
    In the heavens God has pitched a tent for the sun.
    5 It is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber,
    like a champion rejoicing to run his course.
    6 It rises at one end of the heavens
    and makes its circuit to the other;
    nothing is deprived of its warmth.

    1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

    That was the beginning of the Revelation of The Lord Jesus.

    His Bond Servant
    Lou Newton
    Last edited by Lou Newton; November 4, 2021, 11:38 PM.

  • #2

    To:lou newton

    Fri, Nov 5 at 12:36 AM
    Interesting. I have been hearing more people saying lately that even though we’re in tough times right now and it may feel like the end times, civilization has gone through many, many very difficult times in history what did not prove to be the end times.
    I have also heard it said that Revelations actually already took place with Nero.

    Your thoughts?


    Thanks for the reply Nancy.

    God created three realms. The Natural, The Soul, and the spiritual. How could there be a greater natural tribulation that the flood that killed everyone but 8.

    The Christians went through a great tribulation of the soul during the time of Nero and Rome. Jerusalem was totally destroyed by the Romans.

    I think the great tribulation will, first be worldwide like the flood. The tribulation of Christians during Nero was not worldwide. Also a tribulation that was spiritual would be of a greater realm than the natural, or the soul.

    I am not saying we are in the great tribulation, but I am saying we should consider the possibility. This is the first time I have seen the possibility that we are. I see people dying spiritually and no one seems to be aware that a spiritual tribulation could be taking place right now.



    • #3
      To:lou newton

      Fri, Nov 5 at 7:33 AM
      If you will research (From the Mather Project) the “Apocalyptic Signs” at the settling of this country, most were recycled from the past 2000 years of world history. When Mather was asked if they were living in the end times, he replied no. (Early 1700’s) The reason he gave was the Hebrews have not returned & claimed their land. I believe the next event on that prophetic timeline will be the rebuilding of the Temple.

      Hi Larry,
      Thanks for the very kind reply.

      The first "temple" was a tent that moved with the people of God. I believe the last Temple is being built of "Living Stones" and is a moving temple again. It will cover the whole earth.

      1 Peter 2:4-6
      New International VersionThe Living Stone and a Chosen People

      4 As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him— 5you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For in Scripture it says:

      “See, I lay a stone in Zion,
      a chosen and precious cornerstone,
      and the one who trusts in him
      will never be put to shame.”

      d. 1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

      e. 1 Corinthians 3:17 If any man defiles the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

      f.Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

      g.Mark 14:58 We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.

      h.Acts 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
      Last edited by Lou Newton; November 5, 2021, 11:34 PM.


      • #4
        Ronald Kosor
        To:lou newton

        Fri, Nov 5 at 9:58 AM
        You showed the seals. The four horsemen. White horse Catholicism, poor leader.NOW

        Red, communism china NOW

        Black Capitalism vs Socialism. NOW one world order

        Pale green horse Islam NOW.

        All 4 horses are out of the barn. The one world religion is here. Chrislam! Abu Dabiah. Catholism, Judiasm, islamism.

        7 headed and 10 horns beast is now G7 and D 10. Working with U.N., EU and the Great Reset.

        Vaccine luciferin, number 666, mark COVID green passport, can not buy or sell without it

        Thanks for the very kind reply Ron. I posted it for al to read.
        Last edited by Lou Newton; November 6, 2021, 01:59 PM.


        • #5
          Steve Hollander
          To:lou newton

          Fri, Nov 5 at 4:25 PM
          Hi Lou,

          Thanks for sending me this. I believe we are about to enter the great tribulation the second half of next year. I mean it sure looks like it. Unless the Holy One gives us another Trump style reprieve. I would like to be with Christ but am willing to wait.

          Hope your boys are well. Gotta new pooch. Last guy passed. Both boys working here together. Business is overwhelming these days. Have to be very careful not to let the prosperity go to my head. Hope you are doing well.

          Blessings ..... Steve

          Steve Hollander
          Hollander Electric LLC
          NJ Licensed Master Electrician # 9674
          NJ Licensed Master HVACR #4711


          Hi Steve,

          Thank you for the very kind reply.

          I am doing far beyond what any man that is 78 could even hope. I do shoulder shrugs with 720#. I do 12 reps on the pullover machine with 305#. I do one arm peck flies with 322# and 20 reps. I still sprint the stadium steps and I am still pretty fast.

          That is all small potatoes. But the Lord has preformed many miracles thorough my prayers the last few years. Some are overwhelming. My cup runs over.

          Glad to hear you are also doing so well


          • #6
            To:lou newton

            Sat, Nov 6 at 11:49 AM
            Hey Lou, Further clarification of the significance of the third Temple. This is an event on the prophetic timeline. The Shekinah Glory of Adonai, I believe, will escalate throughout the world until Mashiach comes. The miracles & deliverance to take place will not exclude Temple Mount, there is a prophetic process to take place there as well. Where ever you may be, Israel awaits the bridegroom. Have a safe day. To be continued………..

            Sent from my iPhone

            Thanks for the very kind reply Larry.

            Acts 7

            48 Yet the Most High does not dwell in houses made by hands, as the prophet says,

            49 “‘Heaven is my throne,
            and the earth is my footstool.
            What kind of house will you build for me, says the Lord,
            or what is the place of my rest?
            50 Did not my hand make all these things?’

            It seems the Lord is saying He will build His final Temple Himself. Human hands will not build it. The Lord fills us with His Holy Spirit and then builds us into a new creation that is more like Him.

            No Temple build out of stone can resemble God. But we are created in His image and a temple of Living Stones, which are us, will resemble God.

            Last edited by Lou Newton; November 6, 2021, 02:00 PM.


            • #7
              To:lou newton

              Thu, Nov 11 at 2:26 PM
              Hi Lou,
              I think John Wesley had much wisdom; therefore, I feel as he did. Here’s why……

              Agreeing to Disagree

              In 1770, at the death of George Whitefield, Wesley wrote a memorial sermon which praised Whitefield's admirable qualities and acknowledged the two men's differences: "There are many doctrines of a less essential nature. In these we may think and let think; we may 'agree to disagree.' But, meantime, let us hold fast the essentials..."

              Wesley may have been the first to use "agree to disagree" in print – in the modern sense of tolerating differences – though he himself attributed the saying to Whitefield, and it had appeared in other senses previously.

              Thanks brother for your participation in the Bible study. You have been an iron sharpener!
              Thanks for the very kind reply Ken, wise words indeed.

              There is ONE and ONLY ONE condition to being saved. That is the very foundation Christianity stands on.

              That is to trust in the Lord Jesus to save you, and trust in no one, or nothing else to save you.

              Many have quoted other men and church fathers etc. I will quote the JUDGE of the whole universe:

              Matthew 24 NIV

              4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.

              We are NOT to be alarmed by wars and rumors of wars. Wars will take place, but the end is still to come. Wars are NOT a sign of the end times. WHY ? Wars have been here since Cain killed Abel and will continue till Jesus returns.

              Jesus was crowned in heaven and given a bow and arrows. He rode out on a White Horse and into the garden to win back those of mankind that would follow Him. Jesus did not surrender mankind to Satan. He told Adam and Eve and all men that their disobedience would bring WAR, FAMINE and DISEASE with death being the final disease. When men rebel and run from God he puts a thornbush in their path to try to stop them and cause them to turn and go back to Him. That thornbush is WAR, FAMINE, and PLAGUE.

              WAR, FAMINE and PLAGUE have been with us since then and are NOT a sign of the end times as many have claimed.

              Do not take my word for it. Seek The Lord Jesus and ask Him to give you sight. He gives sight to everyone that confesses they can not see.

              But here are His words again to consider:

              4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.