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    WHAT is TRUE REVIVAL?

    by Don Harkins


    What is revival? We all supposedly long for and pray for

    revival. We constantly hear both preachers and even

    sometimes politicians make statements to the effect that

    what America needs is revival. A look at Webster reveals

    that revival is "restoration, religious awakening, meeting,

    being made alive or refreshed".


    What is true revival? Is God interested in revival? Has

    America gone too far down the wrong track to witness

    another great revival? Thank God there is revival sweeping

    many of the third world countries but how desperate are we

    for revival in America? Remember this definition of revival

    as given by one of the early revivalists.. "nothing more than

    God finding a dwelling place on earth, nothing more or less

    than the abiding presence of Jesus Christ".


    Let´s let an early revivalist, named Owen Murphy answer

    the question as to what is true revival. The following are

    quotes from his article 'This is Revival': "When men in the

    streets are afraid to open their mouths and utter godless

    words lest the judgments of God should fall; when sinners,

    overawed by the Presence of God tremble in the streets

    and cry for mercy; when, without special meetings and

    sensational advertising, the Holy Ghost sweeps across

    cities and towns in Supernatural Power and holds men in

    the grip of terrifying Conviction; when every shop becomes

    a pulpit; every heart an altar; every home a sanctuary and

    people walk softly before God, this is Revival".


    "Today the word Revival has largely lost its real meaning.

    Our present generation, never having witnessed the mighty

    movings of God in nationwide spiritual awakening such as

    has taken place in past generations, has little conception

    of the magnitude of such a "visitation". "Heaven-sent revival

    is not religious entertainment, where crowds gather to hear

    outstanding preachers and musical programs: neither is it

    the result of sensational advertising - in a God-sent revival

    you don´t spend money on advertising; people come

    because Revival is there. Revival is an "awareness of God"

    that grips the whole community, and the roadside. The

    tavern, as well as the church, become the places where

    men find Christ. Here is the vast difference between our

    modern evangelistic campaigns and true revival. In the

    former, hundreds may be brought to a knowledge of Christ

    and churches experience seasons of blessings, but as far

    as the community is concerned little impact is made... In

    revival, the Spirit of God, like a cleansing flame, sweeps

    through the community, divine conviction grips people

    everywhere; the strongholds of the devil tremble, and many

    close their doors, while multitudes turn to Christ."


    This is true revival and the church must be first follow the

    mandates of 2 Chronicles 7:14. How disturbing are the

    words of some of our leaders who estimate that only

    25% - 30% of church members will actually go up in the

    rapture and how alarming it is to see the news reports that

    the social ills of our society such as divorce, adultery,

    homosexuality, unforgiveness, strife, jealousy, disputes

    and factions are as prevalent inside the church as they are

    outside the church. The church must have revival. How do

    we get there? In 2 Chronicles 7:14, we are told very explicitly

    how to experience revival and we are all familiar with these

    words. In this verse there are four conditions that must take

    place in order for revival to become a reality in our world

    today. "My people" must...humble themselves, must pray,

    must turn from their wicked way and must "seek My face" -

    four conditions to meet for revival. The sins of pride,

    unrighteousness and prayerlessness and all of the carnality

    within the churches must be dealt with before we see revival.

    However, the question at hand is this, "IF", are we willing to

    pay the price for revival or will we be content for business as

    usual and witness an occasional time of refreshing in our

    midst while our families, communities, churches and nation

    slide further into anarchy, apostasy and apathy. It´s up to

    you and me. God will uphold His end of the challenge if we

    meet the conditions as outlined in His Word.


    "IF" my people will: (1) Humble themselves, (2) Pray,

    (3) Turn from their wicked ways, and (4) Seek my face.


    Andrew Bonar explains, "revivals begin with God´s people,

    the Holy Spirit touches their heart anew, and gives them

    new fervor and compassion and zeal, new light and life, and

    when He has thus come to you, He next goes forth to the

    valley of dry bones. Oh, what responsibility this lays on the

    Church of God! If you grieve Him away from yourselves, or

    hinder His visit, then the poor perishing world suffers sorely!.

    -We need revival so that we can once again touch this

    nation and world for Christ. We must have revival, one that

    touches every segment of our society.


    If we want revival, we will cry out to God out of desperation.

    A place that we know that we can´t survive without His

    touch and His indwelling presence. Hannah was desperate,

    so were Ezra, Nehemiah and the other prophets of old.

    Evan Roberts of Wales was desperate for revival. In fact, he

    prayed 11 years for revival. He was a very humble man, a

    man in his twenties when in 1904, he witnessed the Welsh

    revival that swept the world. Will you be the one that perhaps

    makes the difference? Prayers of desperation and an intense

    desire for revival will produce groanings, travail, anguish,

    agony coming from the prayer closet. Prayers of DESPERATION.


    Repentance or a turning away from the former, according to

    our scripture, must take place before revival. It's repentance

    or judgment. All of the sins of the church - pride envy,

    jealousy and unforgiveness must be repented-of if we want

    revival. Repentance is Godly sorrow and a turning away from

    the past. Ezra and Nehemiah cried out in repentance on

    behalf of their people. We must not only repent of our sins

    and failures, but also for the sinfulness of our church,

    families, communities and nations. -Prayers of REPENTANCE.


    Only then will true Revival come.

  • #2
    Is this the Don Harkins of the Idaho Observer and “Slavery and the Nine Veils” used to answer the question why people cannot see the truth?

    I hope not since he has New Age theology.

    The first veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the first veil and find the world of politics. We will vote, become active and develop an opinion. Our opinions will be shaped by the physical world around us; we will have been “conditioned” from our days in public education to accept that government officials, network media personalities and other “experts” are the primary voices of authority. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the third veil.
    The second veil: Ten percent of us will also pierce the second veil to explore the world of history, the relationship between man and government and the meaning of self-government through constitutional and common law. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the third veil.
    The third veil: Ten percent of those who pierce the second veil, will eventually pierce the third veil to conclusively find that the resources of the world, including people, are controlled by extremely wealthy and powerful families whose incorporated old world assets have, with modern extortion strategies, become the foundation upon which the entire world´s economy is currently indebted. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fourth veil.
    The fourth veil: Ten percent will then pierce the fourth veil to discover the Illuminati, Freemasonry, and the other secret societies. These societies use symbols and perform ceremonies that perpetuate the generational transfers of arcane knowledge that is used to keep the ordinary people in political, economic and spiritual bondage to the oldest bloodlines on earth. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fifth veil.
    The fifth veil: Ten percent will progress to pierce the fifth veil to learn that the secret societies are so far advanced technologically that time travel and interstellar communications have no boundaries and controlling the very thoughts and even the very actions of people is what their members do as offhandedly as we tell our children when they must go to bed. As in the days of Noah, this technology is even creating synthetic life forms, as man seeks to displace God. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the sixth veil.
    The sixth veil: Ten percent will progress to pierce the sixth veil where we learn the dragons and lizards and aliens we thought were the fictional monsters of childhood literature are real indeed and are in reality the actual controlling forces behind the secret societies uncovered in the fourth veil. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without piercing the seventh veil.
    The seventh veil: Ten Percent will progress to pierce the 7th veil where the incredible world of fractal geometry and the universal law of numbers will be fully understood and embraced. The creative force of the entire universe will be shown to be linked to numerical code formulas and sequences, and all “mysteries” including the very fabric of time, space, parallel universes, and access therein is unlocked. Those whose intellects allow them to pierce the seventh veil often succumb to the lure and promise of massive wealth offered by the ruling elite, and thus over ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without piercing the eighth veil.
    The eighth veil: Piercing the eighth veil reveals God and the pure energy known as LOVE that is the pure life force in all living things – which are one and the same. Deep-seated Humility is needed in order to ever pierce this veil.
    The ninth veil: Piercing the ninth veil means perfecting the pure energy known as love and thereby becoming truly one with God and His formulations. By perfecting this pure energy, one then fully embraces charity and therein gains full understanding of the universal plan of sacrifice, death, and redemption; life itself then becomes complete and one truly comes full circle and looks at the world through the eyes of an innocent child, yet with the deepest wisdom born of pure LOVE from the eighth veil.
    Consider this: If this theory is correct, there are only about 60,000 people on the planet who have successfully pierced the sixth veil. The irony here is too incredible: Those who are stuck behind veils one through five have little choice but to view the people who have pierced the veils beyond them as dangerously insane. With each veil pierced, exponentially shrinking numbers of increasingly enlightened people are deemed insane by exponentially increasing masses of decreasingly enlightened people.

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    • #3
      2 Chronicles 7:14 has been used over and over as it is used here by Don Harkins. I suppose his presentation is as old as preaching. However, this verse is in a section following the dedication of the Temple built by Solomon which is a period of time of power and wealth for Israel. The verse before 7:14 is about divine judgment which is seemingly out of context, so it must be a forward warning of the days when Solomon does not follow in the steps of his father David. Accordingly, 7:14 is a promise made for the nation at a future time of idol worship (evil practices). The promise is to pardon their sins of evil practices and to restore their land = Israel.

      The imported idea of revival for 2 Chronicles 7:14 does not seem to equate to what Christians refer to as revival. Congregational, denominational, or Church revival is not a spiritual awakening while in evil practices but is the desire of sanctified, fervent believers. Such a revival idea as imported into 2 Chronicles 7:14 might apply to the nation as it did for Israel, but not to the Church, especially those like the Welch revival which did not originate from evil practices but just the opposite.

      All this hullabaloo of mine comes because I too have been thinking on revival for 45 years. My most recent hypothesis is that revival begins with signs. Devout believers experience some kind of supernatural sign that changes faith and belief into abandonment and action. It is the abandonment of all earthly desires and pretenses while engaging in the action of proclaiming the Gospel. Those who hear a real believer recognize there is a difference. It is not that believers need to wait on God to forgive their sins and heal their land but believers need to – how do I say this?

      BELIEVE, REALLY BELIEVE. The supernatural sign changes our claim of faith and belief into REALLY BELIEVING. That is all that is needed for revival.
      Is this not what we so admire about all the renowned people of the faith? They REALLY BELIEVED.

      Tear this hypothesis down for that will remove my guilt.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by glen smith View Post
        Is this the Don Harkins of the Idaho Observer and “Slavery and the Nine Veils” used to answer the question why people cannot see the truth?

        I hope not since he has New Age theology.

        The first veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the first veil and find the world of politics. We will vote, become active and develop an opinion. Our opinions will be shaped by the physical world around us; we will have been “conditioned” from our days in public education to accept that government officials, network media personalities and other “experts” are the primary voices of authority. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the third veil.
        The second veil: Ten percent of us will also pierce the second veil to explore the world of history, the relationship between man and government and the meaning of self-government through constitutional and common law. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the third veil.
        The third veil: Ten percent of those who pierce the second veil, will eventually pierce the third veil to conclusively find that the resources of the world, including people, are controlled by extremely wealthy and powerful families whose incorporated old world assets have, with modern extortion strategies, become the foundation upon which the entire world´s economy is currently indebted. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fourth veil.
        The fourth veil: Ten percent will then pierce the fourth veil to discover the Illuminati, Freemasonry, and the other secret societies. These societies use symbols and perform ceremonies that perpetuate the generational transfers of arcane knowledge that is used to keep the ordinary people in political, economic and spiritual bondage to the oldest bloodlines on earth. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fifth veil.
        The fifth veil: Ten percent will progress to pierce the fifth veil to learn that the secret societies are so far advanced technologically that time travel and interstellar communications have no boundaries and controlling the very thoughts and even the very actions of people is what their members do as offhandedly as we tell our children when they must go to bed. As in the days of Noah, this technology is even creating synthetic life forms, as man seeks to displace God. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the sixth veil.
        The sixth veil: Ten percent will progress to pierce the sixth veil where we learn the dragons and lizards and aliens we thought were the fictional monsters of childhood literature are real indeed and are in reality the actual controlling forces behind the secret societies uncovered in the fourth veil. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without piercing the seventh veil.
        The seventh veil: Ten Percent will progress to pierce the 7th veil where the incredible world of fractal geometry and the universal law of numbers will be fully understood and embraced. The creative force of the entire universe will be shown to be linked to numerical code formulas and sequences, and all “mysteries” including the very fabric of time, space, parallel universes, and access therein is unlocked. Those whose intellects allow them to pierce the seventh veil often succumb to the lure and promise of massive wealth offered by the ruling elite, and thus over ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without piercing the eighth veil.
        The eighth veil: Piercing the eighth veil reveals God and the pure energy known as LOVE that is the pure life force in all living things – which are one and the same. Deep-seated Humility is needed in order to ever pierce this veil.
        The ninth veil: Piercing the ninth veil means perfecting the pure energy known as love and thereby becoming truly one with God and His formulations. By perfecting this pure energy, one then fully embraces charity and therein gains full understanding of the universal plan of sacrifice, death, and redemption; life itself then becomes complete and one truly comes full circle and looks at the world through the eyes of an innocent child, yet with the deepest wisdom born of pure LOVE from the eighth veil.
        Consider this: If this theory is correct, there are only about 60,000 people on the planet who have successfully pierced the sixth veil. The irony here is too incredible: Those who are stuck behind veils one through five have little choice but to view the people who have pierced the veils beyond them as dangerously insane. With each veil pierced, exponentially shrinking numbers of increasingly enlightened people are deemed insane by exponentially increasing masses of decreasingly enlightened people.
        If the man who calls himself, Pope, were to say that Jesus is the One and Only way to salvation, I would agree with him and would post it on this site. I do not judge the messenger, but the message.

        The message I posted about revival was good.

        This is certainly hogwash:
        The fifth veil: Ten percent will progress to pierce the fifth veil to learn that the secret societies are so far advanced technologically that time travel and interstellar communications have no boundaries and controlling the very thoughts and even the very actions of people
        Last edited by Lou Newton; March 9th, 2018, 11:31 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by glen smith View Post
          2 Chronicles 7:14 has been used over and over as it is used here by Don Harkins. I suppose his presentation is as old as preaching. However, this verse is in a section following the dedication of the Temple built by Solomon which is a period of time of power and wealth for Israel. The verse before 7:14 is about divine judgment which is seemingly out of context, so it must be a forward warning of the days when Solomon does not follow in the steps of his father David. Accordingly, 7:14 is a promise made for the nation at a future time of idol worship (evil practices). The promise is to pardon their sins of evil practices and to restore their land = Israel.

          The imported idea of revival for 2 Chronicles 7:14 does not seem to equate to what Christians refer to as revival. Congregational, denominational, or Church revival is not a spiritual awakening while in evil practices but is the desire of sanctified, fervent believers. Such a revival idea as imported into 2 Chronicles 7:14 might apply to the nation as it did for Israel, but not to the Church, especially those like the Welch revival which did not originate from evil practices but just the opposite.

          All this hullabaloo of mine comes because I too have been thinking on revival for 45 years. My most recent hypothesis is that revival begins with signs. Devout believers experience some kind of supernatural sign that changes faith and belief into abandonment and action. It is the abandonment of all earthly desires and pretenses while engaging in the action of proclaiming the Gospel. Those who hear a real believer recognize there is a difference. It is not that believers need to wait on God to forgive their sins and heal their land but believers need to – how do I say this?

          BELIEVE, REALLY BELIEVE. The supernatural sign changes our claim of faith and belief into REALLY BELIEVING. That is all that is needed for revival.
          Is this not what we so admire about all the renowned people of the faith? They REALLY BELIEVED.

          Tear this hypothesis down for that will remove my guilt.
          Our nation is not healed and is in terrible condition. That simply means that the church is in terrible condition, for God is not a lair.

          I believe God at His word:

          13 “When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or command locusts to devour the land or send a plague among my people, IFmy people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lou Newton View Post

            If the man who calls himself, Pope, were to say that Jesus is the One and Only way to salvation, I would agree with him and would post it on this site. I do not judge the messenger, but the message.

            The message I posted about revival was good.

            This is certainly hogwash:
            The fifth veil: Ten percent will progress to pierce the fifth veil to learn that the secret societies are so far advanced technologically that time travel and interstellar communications have no boundaries and controlling the very thoughts and even the very actions of people
            ---------------------------------

            I approach the message differently. The messenger is part of the message. Ascribing something I agree with as supported by a false messenger can be seen as attributing approval of a false message by the false messenger.
            Most deception and lies are mixed with facts.

            Because of the argument you have made in separating the message from the messenger, do I assume that your quote by Don Harkins is the same New Age Don Harkins of whom I ask?

            The fifth veil: - does not qualify as hogwash because hogwash is useful to pigs and the farmer. If I picked out New Age ideas from this list of nine from Slavery and the Nine Veils there would be a lot more than just the #5.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by glen smith View Post
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              I approach the message differently. The messenger is part of the message. Ascribing something I agree with as supported by a false messenger can be seen as attributing approval of a false message by the false messenger.
              Most deception and lies are mixed with facts.

              Because of the argument you have made in separating the message from the messenger, do I assume that your quote by Don Harkins is the same New Age Don Harkins of whom I ask?

              The fifth veil: - does not qualify as hogwash because hogwash is useful to pigs and the farmer. If I picked out New Age ideas from this list of nine from Slavery and the Nine Veils there would be a lot more than just the #5.
              I received this article from a reliable source that has sent me many other good articles. I have no idea who this Don Harkins is. I read it and thought is was worth reading and considering.

              God included many things that Satan said and they are valuable for us to know. But if you object to this article only because it was written by a man with the same name as one you disapprove of, why then would you publish stuff you knew was written by the one you disapprove of.

              I certainly do not approve of or follow New Age doctrine. If you do not know that, then you have learned nothing about me in 15 years.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lou Newton View Post

                I received this article from a reliable source that has sent me many other good articles. I have no idea who this Don Harkins is. I read it and thought is was worth reading and considering.

                God included many things that Satan said and they are valuable for us to know. But if you object to this article only because it was written by a man with the same name as one you disapprove of, why then would you publish stuff you knew was written by the one you disapprove of.

                I certainly do not approve of or follow New Age doctrine. If you do not know that, then you have learned nothing about me in 15 years.
                Lou does not know who Don Harkins is. My inquiry was to identify Don Harkins.
                The New Age material posted was in no way supporting him but to expose what this Don Harkins propagated.
                The Slavery and the Nine Veils is an example of a modern form of Gnosticism.

                I believe my understanding of 2 Chronicles 7:14 is justified.
                I do not think it is the key to a more intense spiritual experience or revival but the key for a nation to be obedient to God and be under His protection. There was a time when I believed what I was taught about 2 Chronicles 7:14. All Christians had to do was humble themselves and pray and seek the face of the Lord and turn from our wicked ways and their would be a great revival. I have been involved in a number of attempts to follow this idea. Some lasted two years. I have known of others that have lasted over a decade. There a probably hundreds of such groups in the USA as I write this. None of these groups of which I am aware ever worshiped idols or knowingly practiced anything resembling evil. Yet, where is the revival?

                At some point, unless we believe without hope or believe God does not fulfill His promises, we must rub our eyes and read this verse again.
                And I quote Lou, "I care not what mere men say or believe, for God tells us that all men are lairs. To preserve their doctrines and what they have taught they will claim that what they say is true and what God says is not true. The words that God says are totally true. He is The Truth and can not lie."
                But our understanding of the truth can be wrong.
                Last edited by glen smith; March 9th, 2018, 11:35 PM.

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