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  • Did Adam's sin cause death in the world ?

    A popular teaching is that Adam's sin caused the world to decay and bring forth death.

    Is this true ? - Or does the Bible teach differently ?

    Was Adam part of the creation ? Of course he was.

    Adam chose to sin - it was his choice. Did Adam's choice bring forth decay in the world ?

    Here is what I read in the Holy Scriptures today:

    Romans 8

    18I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. 19 For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

    22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerlyfor our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? 25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.

    So The Holy Scriptures state very plainly that the creation is in the bondage of decay, BUT NOT BY IT'S OWN CHOICE. Adam was part of that creation and his choice did not cause decay. His choice brought forth spiritual death.

    It is by the choice of the ONE who subjected it, which is the Lord Himself.

    So Adam's sin did not cause the world to be subjected to decay and death. The Lord created the world that way from the beginning.

    This is why The Lord said this after Adam sinned:

    Genesis 3

    21 The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

    If Adam already had a body that would not die there would have been no purpose for the tree of life. God gave Adam a choice; seek life, or seek knowledge of good and evil. Satan said, "I will be like God" and he tempted Eve to seek to be like God.

    If Adam would have ate from the tree of life after he sinned he would have been lost forever just as Satan is lost forever. For what need would he have for God if he was never going to die.

    God created the world in a state of decay and death. He wanted men to see seeds fall to the ground and die to bring forth life 30 or 100 fold.

    God wanted men to see that something has to die for us to have life. No man can live, even in the natural, without something dying to keep them alive. Vegans try to say nothing has to die for them to live. But they have to eat plants, and plants are alive. Something has to die for men to live.

    The natural is a sign of the spiritual. The fact that some plant or animal has to die for us to live is to reveal to us that Jesus had to die for us to have eternal life, or real life. Natural life is not real life for it is only temporary and not eternal.

    God created the world in a state of decay and death. Stars had to be born and then die to form our Sun. Plants had to bring forth seeds that fall to the ground and die and then bring forth life 30 or 100 fold.

    Adam seen death in the world and feared death. It was this fear of death that tempted him to try to hang onto his life,which is sin.

    1 Cor 15

    “Where, O death, is your victory?
    Where, O death, is your sting?”[i]

    56 The sting of death is sin,

    Now the scriptures also state that the wages of sin is death. But that is talking about eternal death, or spiritual death. But the sting of death is referring to natural death. The fact that we see we are going to die causes us to hang onto our life and be selfish.

    Jesus said:

    Matthew 16

    Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 25 For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.

    So God created the world with death and decay. Look at this scripture:

    Romans 11

    32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

    So God created the world this way so that man would be bound over to disobedience so that He could then show mercy to them all.

    Ephesians 1

    4Long ago, even before he made the world, God chose us to be his very own through what Christ would do for us; he decided then to make us holy in his eyes, without a single fault—we who stand before him covered with his love. 5 His unchanging plan has always been to adopt us into his own family by sending Jesus Christ to die for us. And he did this because he wanted to!

    God bound all men over to disobedience so that he could then show mercy to them all be dying for them and reveal to all men that He loves us.
    Last edited by Lou Newton; July 4th, 2018, 11:48 PM.

  • #2
    M Salvagno
    To:lou newton


    Jul 5 at 9:07 AM
    Hi Lou

    Good to hear from you.

    Roman 5:12 shows sin entered through one man because only through man can sin occur.

    The difference is that Adam had a,soul and would feel eternal affects of sin. Creation will be destroyed. So creation can be corrupted but creation has no soul...but sin itself can only enter mankind though man himself

    Mike

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      Originally posted by Lou Newton View Post
      M Salvagno
      To:lou newton


      Jul 5 at 9:07 AM
      Hi Lou

      Good to hear from you.

      Roman 5:12 shows sin entered through one man because only through man can sin occur.

      The difference is that Adam had a,soul and would feel eternal affects of sin. Creation will be destroyed. So creation can be corrupted but creation has no soul...but sin itself can only enter mankind though man himself

      Mike
      Hi Mike, Thanks for the reply, very good comment. Of course I agree sin entered the world through one man, Adam.

      Also animals do not sin, but they still die. Adam sinned and did not die a natural death that same day. God told him that he would surely die when he ate of the tree. Adam did die a spiritual death that same day he ate of the tree.

      Great sinners often do not die sooner than saints. Sin does not always cause natural death, but it does cause spiritual death.

      But God created the world with decay. Death has always been here. There was no victory over death until the cross of Christ. Jesus defeated sin and death. Natural death is NOT a sin. Jesus died a natural death, but he surely never sinned.

      That is why there will be a new creation that does not have decay when Jesus returns.

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