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    Below is an email sent to me from a pastor who lives in Dallas, Texas about Michael, The Archangel

    Glen B Smith
    To:Lou Newton

    Oct 17 at 4:18 PM
    Jude: What does the archangel Michael not do?
    Background: Overview Summary of Jude
    Judah, one of Jesus' half-brothers, wrote the book of Jude or preached this as a sermon to Messianic believers who were familiar with Old Testament scriptures and Jewish literature. Jude refers to the prediction made by the apostles that there would be scoffers in the last times (2 Peter 3:3) and Jude declares now is the last times where scoffers without the Spirit are corrupting those to whom he is addressing (verses 18-19). He uses texts from 2 Peter to refute corrupt teachers who lived immoral lives. Not only does he illustrate God's judgment on rebellion, but he warns against rebels corrupting other people.
    He then challenges those to whom he is preaching to contend for the faith and stay faithful to God. As God's new temple, believers must build their lives on the core message of Jesus and then pray, love and obey. Their lives must reflect their faith because God's grace through Jesus demands a whole-life response that includes moral living. The way they live is the most reliable indicator of what they believe.

    Major Points made in the Book of Jude

    Contend for Faith
    Believers must contend for true Christian faith and deal with corrupt teachers who betrayed Jesus by infiltrating the church with immoral living and distorted grace.

    Rebellion & Justice
    Judah uses Old Testament and Jewish literature to demonstrate how rebellious people receive divine justice and warn against rebellious, corrupt teachers who reject God's messengers.

    Rebellious Corruption
    Old Testament examples about rebels who corrupt other people are metaphors for teachers whose self-absorption and trail of chaos betray their claim to follow Jesus.

    Two Warnings
    Judah gives the church ancient and recent warnings to deal with corrupt teachers. They distort Jesus' good news, but God's justice on evil is coming.

    Build a New Temple
    The book of Jude reminds believers in God's new temple to build faithfully on Jesus' message, pray, love, obey and stay alert for His return.

    Reference: https://thebibleproject.com/explore/jude/
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    What does the archangel Michael not do?
    Jude 1:9 ESV
    But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.”

    Jude is using examples from the Bible and Jewish literature to illustrate proper responses and defiant rebellion. Jude contends for knowing one’s place and not to presume a right or position belonging only to the Lord. He reveals the humility of the archangel Michael as assuming his proper role. In the archangel Michael’s contention with the devil he did not accuse or judge the devil but deferred to the Lord to rebuke the devil.
    The Bible Reveals that the Lord rebukes and judges Satan.
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    Scripture where the Lord rebukes or judges Satan-

    Zechariah 3:2 ESV
    And the Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, O Satan! The Lord who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is not this a brand plucked from the fire?”

    Matthew 4:10 ESV
    Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’”
    Matthew 16:23 ESV (Mark 8:33)
    But he turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me. For you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of man.”
    Revelation 2:20 ESV
    And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,

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    Verses using the archangel Michael in the ESV
    Daniel 10:13
    The prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me twenty-one days, but Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I was left there with the kings of Persia,
    Daniel 10:21
    But I will tell you what is inscribed in the book of truth: there is none who contends by my side against these except Michael, your prince.
    Daniel 12:1
    [ The Time of the End] “At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.
    Jude 1:9
    But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.”
    Revelation 12:7
    [ Satan Thrown Down to Earth] Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back,

    So The obvious question is WHO IS MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL ?

    1ST- Let me remind everyone that it is very serious to call anyone God, who is not God. That is idolatry and a serious sin.

    2ND - let me also say that it just as serious to claim that God is NOT God. The Pharisees did just that and went to destruction because of their failure to recognize Jesus as God.

    Here are few clues that God Himself gave us as to who Michael IS.

    Michael is called The Archangel by God. Archangel simply means FIRSTANGEL. Or the FIRST heavenly messenger. So who is ,and was, FIRST. There can be only ONE who is FIRST. Everyone else is NOT First. Did not Jesus say He is The First.

    Revelation 12:7
    [ Satan Thrown Down to Earth] Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back
    - So whose angels are all the created angels, if not The Lord's angels ?

    If Satan was the most powerful created angel, who is the ONLY One who could defeat him ?

    Daniel 12:1
    [ The Time of the End] “At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.
    - NOTICE not a great Prince, BUT THE Great Prince. Who is The Great Prince. This Prince is not being called Great by mere men, but by God Himself.

    Daniel 12:1
    [ The Time of the End] “At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.
    - who has charge of The Lord's people ? Who has charge of you ? No one but The Lord Himself has charge of me. There is no mediator between God and His people. The Lord Himself is the One and Only One who has charge of them.

    Daniel 10:21
    But I will tell you what is inscribed in the book of truth: there is none who contends by my side against these except Michael, your prince.
    - Notice God does not say there is only Michael, and The Lord, who contend against the Devil for His people. BUT NONE EXCEPT MICHAEL who contend for them. Well The Lord ALWAYS defends His people and He is The One and Only One who is always faithful to do so. To claim that Michael alone defends God's people is to claim that The Lord does not do so. That is a lie from the pit.

    Jude 1:9 ESV
    But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.”
    - to claim that Michael can not be The Lord because he says, The Lord rebuke you" is NOT valid. For The Lord Himself says the very same thing:

    Zechariah 3:2 ESV
    And the Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, O Satan! The Lord who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is not this a brand plucked from the fire?”
    The Lord said this to Satan because the time of judgement was not here yet. Even The Lord does not judge before the proper time.

    What do you think ? Who is Michael ?


    Last edited by Lou Newton; October 18, 2018, 02:59 PM.

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    ἀρχάγγελος
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    From G757 and G32; a chief angel: - archangel.
    Total KJV occurrences: 2

    G32

    ἄγγελος
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    Total KJV occurrences: 186



    G757

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    A primary verb; to be first (in political rank or power): - reign (rule) over.
    Total KJV occurrences: 2

    Exodus 3 (NIV)

    Moses and the Burning Bush

    3 Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. 3 So Moses thought, “I will go over and see this strange sight—why the bush does not burn up.”

    4 When the Lord saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, “Moses! Moses!”

    And Moses said, “Here I am.”

    5 “Do not come any closer,” God said. “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.” 6 Then he said, “I am the God of your father,[a] the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.” At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God.
    We see from this passage that THE ANGEL OF THE LORD is The Lord Himself. The Angel simply means a heavenly messenger and here The Lord Himself appeared as that messenger. So not all angels are created angels, but The Lord Himself sometimes is the messenger.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Lou Newton View Post
      Below is an email sent to me from a pastor who lives in Dallas, Texas about Michael, The Archangel




      So The obvious question is WHO IS MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL ?

      1ST- Let me remind everyone that it is very serious to call anyone God, who is not God. That is idolatry and a serious sin.

      2ND - let me also say that it just as serious to claim that God is NOT God. The Pharisees did just that and went to destruction because of their failure to recognize Jesus as God.

      Here are few clues that God Himself gave us as to who Michael IS.

      Michael is called The Archangel by God. Archangel simply means FIRSTANGEL. Or the FIRST heavenly messenger. So who is ,and was, FIRST. There can be only ONE who is FIRST. Everyone else is NOT First. Did not Jesus say He is The First.

      - So whose angels are all the created angels, if not The Lord's angels ?

      If Satan was the most powerful created angel, who is the ONLY One who could defeat him ?

      - NOTICE not a great Prince, BUT THE Great Prince. Who is The Great Prince. This Prince is not being called Great by mere men, but by God Himself.

      - who has charge of The Lord's people ? Who has charge of you ? No one but The Lord Himself has charge of me. There is no mediator between God and His people. The Lord Himself is the One and Only One who has charge of them.

      - Notice God does not say there is only Michael, and The Lord, who contend against the Devil for His people. BUT NONE EXCEPT MICHAEL who contend for them. Well The Lord ALWAYS defends His people and He is The One and Only One who is always faithful to do so. To claim that Michael alone defends God's people is to claim that The Lord does not do so. That is a lie from the pit.

      - to claim that Michael can not be The Lord because he says, The Lord rebuke you" is NOT valid. For The Lord Himself says the very same thing:



      The Lord said this to Satan because the time of judgement was not here yet. Even The Lord does not judge before the proper time.

      What do you think ? Who is Michael ?



      I think what happens to people so they can't hear from the Lord Jesus is that they make assumptions about what they read, and do not really listen to what they read. Then, anything after that assumption is totally false, and not from God at all. Michael MUST be another name for Jesus because looking at quite a few scriptures and how they read, they do not make any sense without Jesus being Michael. The scripture above that says they are his angels. That's enough for me. But the other that says Michael only is the prince that defends his people. Where two or three witnesses gather, I will be there, says the Lord. It's the confession of our assumptions that must be made in order to see the truth, which is Christ. I overlooked many times where it says his angels, and so have more proof for myself that Michael is another name for Jesus.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by redsoxmaloney View Post

        I think what happens to people so they can't hear from the Lord Jesus is that they make assumptions about what they read, and do not really listen to what they read. Then, anything after that assumption is totally false, and not from God at all. Michael MUST be another name for Jesus because looking at quite a few scriptures and how they read, they do not make any sense without Jesus being Michael. The scripture above that says they are his angels. That's enough for me. But the other that says Michael only is the prince that defends his people. Where two or three witnesses gather, I will be there, says the Lord. It's the confession of our assumptions that must be made in order to see the truth, which is Christ. I overlooked many times where it says his angels, and so have more proof for myself that Michael is another name for Jesus.
        Thanks Tom. Good comment.

        Glen gives several purposes of the book of Jude. But the main purpose of every book of the Bible is to reveal The Lord Jesus to everyone.

        The main error of the Pharisees was not doctrine, but they did not recognize the very God they claimed to worship.

        All men are lairs and we tend to think God is also a liar like us. Jesus is The Truth and He can not lie.

        When God says Michael and HIS angels; He means exactly what He says. If God meant Michael and The Lord's angels, He would have said that instead. But God said, Michael and HIS angels. So the angels are Michael's angels. Of course the angels all belong to God. So Michael has to be God Himself. God has many Names in The Bible. He is The Lion of Judah, The Lamb, The Angel of The Lord, The Savior, The Almighty, The Counselor, Wonderful, The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit, The Morning Star, The First and the last, The King of all kings, The Lord of all lords, Melchizedek ( King of Righteousness) , and Michael.

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