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    My preference was to verify the Bible study on why the Apostle Paul desired to go to Spain. I continue to work on this (Michael S. Heiser’s position) since what I post above does not destroy that hypothesis.

    Baruch posted:
    Language hooks are indeed used by the writers of the New Testament, and I expect you know this (and let us not overlook that all Scripture is breathed by God; so when Heiser said Luke meant it, we may conclude it was the Spirit that meant it).

    Reply:
    I am in agreement with what is posted above from Baruch. However, Baruch does not say “word hooks” but “language hooks.” Specifically this means quotes from scripture, symbols, stories, and a some theologically significant words like the Exodus, Moses, Abraham, Israel, Jacob, or atonement and not common words. Unless a single OT word has a significant and unique theological meaning, the use of it in the NT would not be a worm hole from the LXX to the NT. There are just too many commonly used words to make worm holes for every word used even in related contexts. Finding these is no indication that the Holy Spirit specifically selected the word unless by inspiration one means a word for word dictation.

    Reference:

    There are 5,437 different lexical forms of words in the New Testament.

    Rare words: 2,000 of them appear only once (36%).
    Many of these are proper nouns, but even removing those, you are left with a ton of vocabulary that only appears one time.

    Common words: 310 words account for 5.5% of the total vocabulary of the NT, but they make up almost 80% of total occurrences of words in the NT.

    Reply continued:
    With the exception of the Apostle Paul, the New Testament writers do not claim inspiration. The Apostle Peter states the writings of the Apostle Paul are scripture.
    Luke never makes that claim but twice provides a different source for the content of his writings.

    References:
    Luke 1:1-4
    Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile an account of the things accomplished among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and servants of the word, 3 it seemed fitting for me as well, having investigated everything carefully from the beginning, to write it out for you in consecutive order, most excellent Theophilus; 4 so that you may know the exact truth about the things you have been taught.

    Acts1:1
    The first account I composed, Theophilus, about all that Jesus began to do and teach,

    Conclusion:
    If interpretation allows worm holes of commonly used words from the LXX to the Greek NT there is no end to what could be made up.

    As stated above, I continue attempting to confirm Heiser on his hypothecs. I would like for it to prove factual. Even if it does not, the idea has theological merit and could be introduced a speculative insight.

    Baruch posted:
    If your skepticism persists, then when do you think the nations will be redeemed? And what might that look like?

    Reply:
    Discernment demands skepticism –- even of oneself.

    Redeeming the nations:
    Baruch is insightful in previously noting that what Heiser is presenting could be headed toward postmillennialism. However, the postmillennial assumptions are not required to support the position that the Kingdom of God came with the Lord Jesus and continues growing throughout the nations until the Lord returns (Daniel 2). This would match the amillennialist position and the premillennialist position up to the beginning of the “last days.”
    Last edited by glen smith; February 12th, 2018, 03:25 PM.

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