Mystery - The sting of death is sin

[Lou Newton]

1 Corinthians 15:56
The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

IS THIS CORRECT: THE STING OF DEATH IS SIN

Many would argue that THE STING OF SIN IS DEATH.

But this scripture says, THE STING OF DEATH IS SIN.

What exactly is the Lord Jesus saying here.

WHY DOES HE SAY THE STING OF DEATH IS SIN INSTEAD OF THE STING OF SIN IS DEATH.

Grace to you - Lou Newton

[Lou Newton]

Originally Posted by Jules
Greetings, Lou

I'm going to take a not-thought-out stab at this and
answer what I'm led to answer right off:

The sting of death is sin just like the sting of a bee injects the poison that kills.
Sin is the poison that will bring death.

For the wages of sin is death.


I do pray this thread is as edifying as Esther's!

Hi Jules,

That sin brings death is the conventional way to think of it. Or as you say the sting of sin is the poison that brings death.

But this scripture is saying that it is death that brings sin. ??????????????

Lou

[Lou Newton]

From Kitty:

1 Corinthians 15:56
The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

To me it means we all all born into sin. We are dying the minute we are born. The reason we die is becuase we choose not to have eternal life in Jesus Christ, so we die in our sins.

When we are saved our sins are taken away and we can never die. Our body may cease but we have eternal life.

[Lou Newton]

Hi Kitty,

I commend the people who are willing to input their thoughts about this.

All you say is true, we are born into sin, and one could even say we are dead the minute we are born.

Our first birth brings physical life, but we are still dead in the spirit. We must ALL be born again to have eternal life or spiritual life.

BUT, WHEN WE ARE BORN OF THE SPIRIT, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT OF THE LORD JESUS COMES TO DWELL WITHIN US; DOES IT STOP ALL DEATH.

NO WE STILL DIE IN THE FLESH.

Lou

[Lou Newton]

Originally Posted by Steve Hollander
Hello Big Brother Lou,
I believe it is significant of Adams death in the garden. Immediately upon disobeying GOD he died spiritually and the sting of that death was sin upon his once holy flesh now corrupted by inherited nature of sin from the one they or he chose to follow instead of GOD.

What do you think O'brother of mine. ...... Steve

Really neat Steve,

You have brought another whole new way to think about this.

BUT IT IS NOT THE MYSTERY THAT I SPEAK OF.

Here is some food for thought:

God said, "the day you eat of it you will surely die". Did Adam die a physical death that same day. We are told about Adam hiding from God, because Adam was afraid, that same day he ate of the tree.

If we must trust in God to be saved, then being afraid of God and hiding from Him would be TURNING FROM GOD. So we know that was death, but it was not physical death but spiritual death.

Lou

[Lou Newton]

Hi friends,

Here is a hint for everyone:

There is more than one type of life. We know although many have physical life, they do not have spiritual life.

The same is true of death. There is more than one type of death.

There is physical death and there is spiritual death.

Lou

[Lou Newton]

Posted by 1611

Originally Posted by lounewton
IS THIS CORRECT: THE STING OF DEATH IS SIN

Many would argue that THE STING OF SIN IS DEATH.

But this scripture says, THE STING OF DEATH IS SIN.

What exactly is the Lord Jesus saying here.

WHY DOES HE SAY THE STING OF DEATH IS SIN INSTEAD OF THE STING OF SIN IS DEATH.

Grace to you - Lou Newton

Lou, does it have anything to do with 2 Cor 5:21?

2 Cor 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin: that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

[Lou Newton]

Originally Posted by 1611
Lou, does it have anything to do with 2 Cor 5:21?

2 Cor 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin: that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Sagelady and Blane,

Really good comments, both of you.

But no one has hit upon the mystery yet.

But some are dancing around it almost unaware.

Lou

[Lou Newton]

Originally Posted by Only Believe Jesus
Mystery - The sting of death is sin

DEATH = to be separated from GOD .... which is permanent, with no hope of return

SIN = willful disobedience to GOD

OBJ,

Yes, I would agree as long as one qualifies that there is no hope of return to God after the separation from Him OF OUR OWN ACCORD.

Of course we would all agree that Jesus not only can, but also has brought us back into fellowship with God, as long as we confess that we are sinners.

For it is in confessing our sin that grace is given and no one will be saved without continual grace applied to them.

Satan tries to convince us that we are such terrible sinners that there is no hope for us. He is half right, we are terrible sinners, but there is always hope in the blood of Jesus. If we see we are sinners, then salvation is right around the corner from us. All we have to do is to CONFESS THAT WE ARE SINNERS and Jesus will save us.

1 John 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.

Lou

[Lou Newton]

You guys will kick yourself when you see how simple this is. I find it hard to believe that no one has gotten this yet.

1 Corinthians 15:56
The sting of death is sin

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death

This mystery when known, is the key to unlock many more mysteries.

Lou

[Lou Newton]

From Mela

Hello Lou! I am not the sharpest bulb in the box. Been pondering this thread today.
"Death" and "asleep" seem the same in Scripture, but can have very different meanings.

Would like to extrapolate more, but that will have to wait for a while.

[Lou Newton]

From WearyPilgrim

We are dead in our trespasses until the Lord 'quickens' us to life in Him. Jesus, the last Adam, lived a sinless life for us and paid the 'wages' on the cross, for us. He was made a quickening spirit, as it says in 1Cor. 15. We are made alive in him, though still in our physical bodies.

[Lou Newton]

What Mela says not only true but part of another mystery that few seem to know about.

Thanks WearyPilgrim -certainly true

[Lou Newton]

From 1611

Originally Posted by Steve Hollander

The sting of death is sin.
The wages of sin is death.

Paul says in Romans 7;24, "Who will deliver me from the body of this death?" (future tense)

Because of sin, our bodies are dead (Ro 8:10)
Our spirit is alive because of righteousness (also Ro 8:10)

God condemned sin in our flesh by sending his Son in the likenesss of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh. (see Ro 8:3)

The righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit. (Ro 8:4)

So Lou, are you saying (from post 166 on the other thread):

Anyone who denies that he still has flesh (is without sin) is antichrist (1 Jn 4:3), because he is denying that God choose to send Jesus to us in the likeness of sinful flesh (Ro 8:3)?

1611

[Lou Newton]

Originally Posted by 1611
Paul says in Romans 7;24, "Who will deliver me from the body of this death?" (future tense)

Because of sin, our bodies are dead (Ro 8:10)
Our spirit is alive because of righteousness (also Ro 8:10)

God condemned sin in our flesh by sending his Son in the likenesss of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh. (see Ro 8:3)

The righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit. (Ro 8:4)

So Lou, are you saying (from post 166 on the other thread):

Anyone who denies that he still has flesh (is without sin) is antichrist (1 Jn 4:3), because he is denying that God choose to send Jesus to us in the likeness of sinful flesh (Ro 8:3)?

1611

GIVE THAT MAN A CUPIE DOLL

Blane, you have jumped ahead to the lesson of the mystery. Great job !

BUT THE MYSTERY ITSELF IS STILL TO BE SOLVED.

Lou