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**Lou Newton** · October 5th, 2017, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by glen smith View Post

Veterans – The following information does not provide a conclusion.

In the House of Representatives there are 243 Republicans (including 1Delegate and
the Resident Commissioner of Puerto Rico).
79 are veterans (32.5%).

In the House of Representatives there are 198 Democrats (including 4 Delegates).
27 are veterans (13.6%).

24% of the House of Representatives are veterans.

Jump back to 1971, when House of Representatives member military service was at its peak, veterans made up 72 percent of members in the House and 78 percent in the Senate.

The 31 Presidents who were Veterans

Highest rank held by Presidents in uniformed service.
George Washington
General and Commander in Chief, Continental Army
1775-1783
Thomas Jefferson
Colonel, Virginia Militia
1770-1779
James Madison
Colonel, Virginia Militia
1775-1781
James Monroe
Major, Continental Army
1775-1778
Andrew Jackson
Major General, U.S. Army
1814-1821
William Henry Harrison
Major General, Kentucky Militia
1812-1814
John Tyler
Captain, Virginia Militia
1812
James K. Polk
Colonel, Tennessee Militia
1821
Zachary Taylor
Major General, U.S. Army
1805-1815, 1816-1849
Millard Fillmore
Major, Union Continentals (home guard)
1861
Franklin Pierce
Brigadier General, New Hampshire Militia
1846-1848
James Buchanan
Private, Pennsylvania Militia
1814
Abraham Lincoln
Captain, Illinois Militia
1832
Andrew Johnson
Brigadier General, U.S. Army (Volunteers)
1862-1865
Ulysses S. Grant
General, U.S. Army
1866-1869
Rutherford B. Hayes
Major General, U.S. Army (Volunteers)
1861-1865
James A. Garfield
Major General, U.S. Army (Volunteers)
1861-1863
Chester A. Arthur
Brigadier General, New York Militia
1858-1863
Benjamin Harrison
Brevet Brigadier General, U.S. Army (Volunteers)
1862-1865
William McKinley
Brevet Major, U.S. Army (Volunteers)
1861-1865
Theodore Roosevelt
Colonel, U.S. Army (Volunteers)
1898
Harry S. Truman
Colonel, Army Officer Reserve Corps
1919-1945
Dwight D. Eisenhower
General of the Army, U.S. Army
1915-1948, 1951-1952
John F. Kennedy
Lieutenant, U.S. Naval Reserve
1941-1945
Lyndon B. Johnson
Commander, U.S. Naval Reserve
1940-1964
Richard M. Nixon
Commander, U.S. Naval Reserve
1942-1966
Gerald R. Ford, Jr.
Lieutenant Commander, U.S. Naval Reserve
1942-1946
Jimmy Carter
Lieutenant, U.S. Navy
1946-1953
Ronald Reagan
Captain, U.S. Army
1942-1945
George Bush
Lieutenant (junior grade), U.S. Navy
1942-1945
George W. Bush
First Lieutenant, Texas Air National Guard
1968-1973

The 13 Presidents who were not veterans

The 4 Presidents who were not veterans from 1789 to 1900

John Adams
John Q Adams
Martin Van Buren
Grover Cleveland

The 9 Presidents who were not veterans since 1900

William Taft
Woodrow Wilson
William Harding
Calvin Coolidge
Herbert Hoover
Franklin Roosevelt
Bill Clinton
Barack Obama
Donald Trump

Very interesting Glen. Every nation has mortal enemies. When military service is looked down upon that nation is headed for disaster.

The Roman Republic rose to power with everyone required to take part in the military. This tends to eliminate unnecessary wars that are fought for ambitious reasons when everyone has to fight in them.

When Rome started to allow the rich to hire someone to take their place it was the start of their downfall. These rich and powerful could stay home and vote to send the army out for their profit. It became far worse when most Roman citizens did not want to be part of the military and instead stay home and eat the free bread and see the free entertainment. Rome had to hire people of foreign nations to fight for them. These foreigners eventually attacked Rome and it fell.

Also I notice some of our worse presidents are on that list of 9 non veterans:

Woodrow Wilson - allowed the Federal Reserve to take over our money - was a large influence in the treaty that ended WW1 that was the cause of WW2 - started the League of Nations which was the start of the United nations.

FDR - the most progressive ( read communist) POTUS of that time. Left us very unprepared for WW2. His wife was just as bad as he was.

Clinton and Obama - they get even worse

**glen smith** · October 9th, 2017, 11:49 PM

While neither John Adams nor John Q. Adams served in uniform it is unrealistic to not recognize they served their country at the risk of death. John Adams assisted in drafting and signed the Declaration of Independence. He was a wanted traitor of England, He served as a diplomat to several countries including Russia. His son, John Q Adams was 9 years old in 1776. He accompanied his father on diplomatic missions and served in both the Washington and Monroe administrations and as the most influential diplomat after Franklin. Just as with his father, his life was often sought by England. It should never be thought that either of these presidents did not seriously risk their lives in service to the nation. John Q Adams, like his father and mother, was a genius. He was fluent in several languages and translated the Greek New testament into English. John Adams and John Q. Adams served as much as any officer in uniform. They are American heroes.

**glen smith** · October 10th, 2017, 12:25 AM

John Adams (1797-1801) and John Q Adams (1825-1829) were the first 1 term presidents. The single terms were the result of politics.

After Andrew Jackson served 8 years as president from 1829-1837 there was not another president who served more than 4 years until Grant in 1869-1877. In the intervening 32 years there were 10 presidents. It should be encouraging that the USA survived Andrew Jackson’s presidency.

After Grant served 8 years as president from 1869-1877 there was not another president who served more than 4 years until Theodore Roosevelt in 1901 to 1909. In the intervening 24 years there were 7 presidents – Cleveland was elected to 2 terms but not consecutive.

After Theodore Roosevelt from 1901-1909 there were 15 presidents before Bill Clinton from 1993-2001. 10 of these 15 severed less than 8 years if Truman is considered as 2 terms.

29 presidents out of the 44 presidents previous to Trump have not served 8 years.
Only 15 presidents have served 2 full terms and 9 of those have been since 1901 if Truman is considered as 2 terms.

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