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  • "Turkey quashes coup; Erdogan vows 'heavy price' for plotters."

    The world seems to be coming apart.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Fisherman View Post

    The world seems to be coming apart.
    Thanks for posting this Fisherman.

    Erdogan was elected by the people, but the longer he has been in office, the more he has acted like a dictator. He has been enforcing Sharia law on the nation that had a framework of a secular parliamentary representative democratic republic.

    The military was secular and wanted to rid the nation of Erdogan. But it seems it failed. I pity the soldiers who took part in the coup. Erdogan was buying oil off of ISIS and supporting Radical Islam. The Military was restraining him and in his way. Now Erdogan might be free to make Turkey a nation run by Islam. This coup failure might allow him to rid the military of everyone that does not support Sharia. Turkey is in NATO and has a strong military with many US weapons so this does not bode well for the world.

    Turkey was a moderate Muslim nation, but this shows how most Muslims support Sharia law. Our government and our media reports that Radical Islam is an extreme minority. But Sharia is radical Islam and most Muslims support Sharia.

    I do not know for sure who was involved in the coup, but it would seem that they supported a secular Republic. It seems to me that it would have been better for the world and Turkey if the coup had been successful.

    Since Obama has been POTUS he has bowed to the head of Sunni Islam, left radical Islam in control of Libya, put the Muslim Brotherhood in control of Egypt but that failed, gave billions in weapons to many nations of Islam and this birthed ISIS, made a treaty with Iran that will give Iran nuclear weapons, and came out in support of Erdogan during this coup. Far worse he has brought millions of Muslims into our nation that has already caused more terrorism.

    If Hillary gets elected, she has already shown she will continue these policies.

    What we are seeing in Paris, San Bernardino, Orlando, Baghdad, Istanbul, Nice and around the world is a taste of what Muslims do when they are an extreme minority in a nation. I shudder to think of what they will do if they get to 10% of the population in the US.

    There is no way to coexist peacefully with a people that has a religion that dictates that they kill anyone that is not of their religion. That is what Sharia law dictates.

    I see no hope for our nation except they repent and turn to The Lord Jesus.
    Last edited by Lou Newton; July 16, 2016, 09:36 AM.


    • #3
      Well it seems at least one journalist is paying attention:

      Turkey's last hope dies

      By Ralph Peters

      Published July 16, 2016

      Soldiers involved in coup attempt surrender in Turkey

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      Friday night’s failed coup was Turkey’s last hope to stop the Islamization of its government and the degradation of its society. Reflexively, Western leaders rushed to condemn a coup attempt they refused to understand. Their reward will be a toxic Islamist regime at the gates of Europe.

      Our leaders no longer do their basic homework.The media relies on experts-by-Wikipedia. Except for PC platitudes, our schools ignore the world beyond our shores. Deluged with unreliable information, citizens succumb to the new superstitions of the digital age.

      So a great country is destroyed by Islamist hardliners before our eyes —and our president praises its “democracy.”

      That tragically failed coup was a forlorn hope, not an attempt to take over a country. Turkey is not a banana republic in which the military grasps the reins for its own profit. For almost a century, the Turkish armed forces have been the guardians of the country’s secular constitution. Most recently, coups in 1960, 1971 and 1980 (with “non-coup” pressure in 1997) saw the military intervene to prevent the country’s collapse.
      Erdogan will use the coup as an excuse to accelerate the Islamization of his country and to lead Turkey deeper into the darkness engulfing the Muslim world. His vision is one of a neo-Ottoman megalomaniac.
      Each time, the military returned the government to civilian rule as soon as that proved practical. My own first experience of Turkey came just before the 1980 coup. Turkey was broke and broken. The economy was in such a shambles that you could not buy a cup of Turkish coffee in Istanbul. I walked because taxis and public transportation had no fuel. Murderous political violence raged. Reluctantly, the generals stepped in and saved their country.

      Friday night, mid-grade officers led a desperate effort to rescue their country again. They failed. The West cheered. Soon enough, we’ll mourn.

      The coup leaders made disastrous mistakes, the worst of which was to imagine that the absence of President Erdogan from Ankara, the capital, presented the perfect opportunity. Wrong. In a coup, the key is to seize the leaders you mean to overthrow (as well as control of the media). Instead of fleeing into exile, Erdogan was able to return in triumph.

      So who is the man our own president rushed to support because he was “democratically elected?” Recep Tayyip Erdogan is openly Islamist and affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, which President Obama appears to believe represents the best hope for the Middle East. But the difference between ISIS, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood isn'’t one of purpose, but merely of manners: Muslim Brothers wash the blood off their hands before they sit down to dinner with their dupes.

      With barely a murmured “Tut-tut!” from Western leaders, Erdogan has dismantled Turkey’s secular constitution (which the military is duty-bound to protect). His “democracy” resembles Putin’s, not ours. Key opposition figures have been driven into exile or banned. Opposition parties have been suppressed. Recent elections have not been held so much as staged. And Erdogan has torn the fresh scab from the Kurdish wound, fostering civil war in Turkey’s southeast for his own political advantage.

      Erdogan has packed Turkey’s courts with Islamists. He appointed pliant, pro-Islamist generals and admirals, while staging show trials of those of whom he wished to rid the country. He has de facto, if not yet de jure, curtailed women’s freedoms. He dissolved the wall between mosque and state (Friday night, he used mosques’ loudspeakers to call his supporters into the streets). Not least, he had long allowed foreign fighters to transit Turkey to join ISIS and has aggressively backed other extremists whom he believed he could manage.

      And his diplomatic extortion racket has degraded our own military efforts against ISIS.

      That’s the man President Obama supports.

      And the leaders of the ill-fated coup? What did they stand for? Mustafa Kemal Ataturk’s legacy and a secular constitution. One of the great men of the last century, Ataturk (an innovative general by background) pulled Turkey from the wreckage of World War One, abolished the caliphate, suppressed fanatical religious orders, gave women legal rights and social protections, banned the veil, promoted secular education for all citizens of Turkey, strongly advocated Westernization and modernization…and promoted a democratic future.

      The officers who led the collapsed coup stood for all those things. President Obama and Secretary of State Kerry opposed them.

      By Saturday morning, it was clear that the mullahs and mobs behind Erdogan had won. Erdogan will use the coup as an excuse to accelerate the Islamization of his country and to lead Turkey deeper into the darkness engulfing the Muslim world. His vision is one of a neo-Ottoman megalomaniac.

      NATO, which operates by consensus, will find itself embracing a poisonous snake. New crises will reawaken old fears in southeastern Europe, which western European states will dismiss condescendingly, further crippling the badly limping European Union. Syria will continue to bleed. And educated, secular Turks will find themselves in a situation like unto that of German liberals in the 1930s. We may see new and unexpected wars.

      A desperate, ill-planned coup has failed in Turkey. Here comes the darkness.

      Fox News Strategic Analyst Ralph Peters is a retired U.S. Army officer and former enlisted man. He is the author of prize-winning fiction and non-fiction books on the Civil War and the military. His latest is "The Damned of Petersburg: A Novel" (Forge Books, June 28, 2016).
      Last edited by Lou Newton; July 16, 2016, 10:07 PM.


      • #4
        My God has all common sense fled the planet? Things are accelerating faster than I would have imagined. And it's plenty of white Christian raised men backing this insanity. They won't be happy until we have Sharia law here in the US.


        • #5
          Originally posted by Steve Hollander View Post
          My God has all common sense fled the planet? Things are accelerating faster than I would have imagined. And it's plenty of white Christian raised men backing this insanity. They won't be happy until we have Sharia law here in the US.
          The Revelation 9

          12 The first woe has passed; behold, two woes are still to come.

          13 Then the sixth angel blew his trumpet, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar before God, 14 saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.” 15 So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour, the day, the month, and the year, were released to kill a third of mankind. 16 The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. 17 And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire[c] and of sulfur, and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. 18 By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed, by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths. 19 For the power of the horses is in their mouths and in their tails, for their tails are like serpents with heads, and by means of them they wound.

          Many have preached this army of 200 million has to be from China because that is the only nation large enough to field an army that large.

          There are several problems with this theory:

          1 - China has a large problem with Muslims itself and so why would they attack Israel. An enemy of your enemy is your friend.

          2 - Does anyone know what kind of logistics it would take to get an army of 200,000,000 across the mountains between China and Israel. It is mind boggling to think of how many trucks that would take. You would need more trucks for food and equipment than you would men.

          3 - China has never been an enemy of Israel. The Bible lists the enemies of Israel and they are close to Israel and are all Muslim and have sworn to destroy Israel.

          4 - If one considers the nations of Islam that surround Israel and are to the east, they total far more than 200 million. We must remember that the Muslims considers everyone in the army of Islam, even women and children. We have seen many woman and children used in suicide attacks. A woman took part in the terrorist attack in San Bernardino.

          5 - It make much more sense that the army that attacks Israel will be from the same nations that have been attacking Israel ever since it was formed. Today that would be the nations of Islam.

          6 - Many have preached that the New Roman Empire will attack Israel. If the Muslims continue to take over Europe as they have been doing; they will end up with the weapons of Europe and certainly one can see that they would then attack Israel.

          7 - Also do we know for sure what nation today God considers Israel. An argument can be made that nation is the USA today. A strong argument has been made that the Pilgrims started a new Israel when they came to America. If the Muslims take over Europe then they would attack the US. But even more possible is that the Muslims are attacking the US as we speak. Obama is bringing in millions of Muslims into our nation and they have been carrying out terror attacks.