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    Famous Physicist Proves “God” Exists, Revelation Leaves Atheists Scratching Their Heads

    http://awmfaith.com/famous-physicist...utm_source=ffa



    Updated January 3, 2018 Alexander Smith / AWM contributor

    A world-famous physicist has made a discovery that proves God does exist. Although he found the evidence back in 2016, theoretical physicist Michio Kaku is now coming forward with it. And because his reasoning is so comprehensive and conclusive, the scientific community is questioning everything they thought they knew about the existence of God. During an interview, Kaku was asked about the meaning of life and God.

    Instead of brushing the question off and moving onto something different, he took it seriously. And he provided an answer that left the interviewer and the scientific community at large in awe.

    Despite what you might suspect, Kaku argues that most physicists believe in God. Because they see how miraculously the world is designed, and that the universe is beautiful, elegant, and filled with order, many of the world’s leading physicist believe an intelligent creator exists.

    Kaku argued that the universe did not have to be ordered. It easily could have been chaotic and ugly. He explains the order that exists as evidence that it was intentionally created.
    “I have concluded that we are in a world made by rules created by an intelligence,” the physicist said, according to Science World Report. “Believe me, everything that we call chance today won’t make sense anymore. To me, it is clear that we exist in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance.”

    You have probably heard about Kaku’s significant scientific achievement. He was one of the developers of the world-changing String Theory. In his theory, primitive semi-radius tachyons (which are theoretical particles) have the power to “unstick” matter or even the vacuum of space between particles. This essentially means that every piece of the universe is independent of every other piece at its most basic level.

    Kaku sees God as the ultimate mathematician. This is not anything new for a world-renown physicist. Albert Einstein believed much the same thing and spend most of his life hunting for his “Theory of Everything” that would once and for all prove that the universe is all connected.

    On his article published last year on BigThink.com, Kaku argues that physicists are the only scientists who can say the word “God” and not feel embarrassed.

    He writes:
    “I work in something called String Theory which makes the statement that we are reading the mind of God. It’s based on music or little vibrating strings thus giving us particles that we see in nature. The laws of chemistry that we struggled with in high school would be the melodies that you can play on these vibrating strings. The Universe would be a symphony of these vibrating strings, and the mind of God that Einstein wrote about at length would be cosmic music resonating through this nirvana… through this 11 dimensional hyperspace—that would be the mind of God. We, physicists, are the only scientists who can say the word “God” and not blush.”

    What do you think about his ground-breaking assertion for a scientist?
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  • #2
    Physics is order without exception.
    If an exception is observed contrary to physics it means the “Physical Law” is either wrong or incomplete and not the observation.

    Arguing the existence of God from order is a very old argument.
    Even cosmologists once argued the existence of God from the order of the solar system.
    Deism originated from such an argument from order. (The watchmaker metaphor where the watchmaker makes a perfectly designed watch, wound it up and let it run.)

    While believers see God as the source of order and design in creation, evolutionists believe their explanation for order and design is philosophically sound.

    Today the fields of sociology, anthropology, paleontology, astronomy, geology, and biology require university academics to be evolutionists because their science requires an explanation of both the evidence from the past and the cause of changes. Evidence from the past and change are explained in evolutionary terms. Physics describes what is and is therefore not concerned with evidence from the past and change as applied to these other sciences

    Being a famous physicist is not the credential for proving the existence of God. I had previously heard Dr. Michio Kaku speak on his opinion about the “proof of God.” He is undoubtedly a genius in physics and mathematics, but an amateur in philosophy.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by glen smith View Post
      Physics is order without exception.
      If an exception is observed contrary to physics it means the “Physical Law” is either wrong or incomplete and not the observation.

      Arguing the existence of God from order is a very old argument.
      Even cosmologists once argued the existence of God from the order of the solar system.
      Deism originated from such an argument from order. (The watchmaker metaphor where the watchmaker makes a perfectly designed watch, wound it up and let it run.)

      While believers see God as the source of order and design in creation, evolutionists believe their explanation for order and design is philosophically sound.

      Today the fields of sociology, anthropology, paleontology, astronomy, geology, and biology require university academics to be evolutionists because their science requires an explanation of both the evidence from the past and the cause of changes. Evidence from the past and change are explained in evolutionary terms. Physics describes what is and is therefore not concerned with evidence from the past and change as applied to these other sciences

      Being a famous physicist is not the credential for proving the existence of God. I had previously heard Dr. Michio Kaku speak on his opinion about the “proof of God.” He is undoubtedly a genius in physics and mathematics, but an amateur in philosophy.
      Thanks for the reply Glen.

      Kaku may be an amateur in philosophy, but Paul was also not a professional attorney. Yet Harvard school of law used his argument in Romans as an example of the best argument they knew of. Kaku's argument is not presented in this short article, but only talked about. His full argument is very strong and uses math to make his point. Kaku mathematically proves the existence of God in his book.

      Ivan Panin also had no experience in philosophy. But he definitely mathematically proved that the Bible was inspired by God and the creation was created by the same God. He started out an atheist who wanted to prove the Bible was not from God. But when faced with the mathematical facts he could not deny the truth that the Bible was from God and not from any man or group of men.

      While order tends to prove that God exists, extreme order defiantly proves His existence. Panin could not even calculate the odds that God did not write the Bible they were so remote. If I remember correctly it was more remote that someone picking out one atom out of all the atoms in the universe. I highly recommend his books, I have all of them.

      While you can use math to prove a fact to anyone open to the truth, no one can prove anything to someone that is not open to the truth. My math IQ was tested three times in a short period of time because they thought it could not be valid. But after three tests they stated that my math IQ was off the chart and the chart went up to 200. I am fairly good at math and developed my own type of calculus with only high school math. I have no college degree yet teach calculus with great success to students. I am not boasting but only giving evidence that I do understand the mathematical arguments presented by Kufu and Panin. They have definitely proven to me that God wrote the Bible and the same God created the universe.

      Some do not like that this proof has been presented. They claim we should accept God on faith alone. But that is not what God asks of us. We ask God to reveal Himself to us by faith that He does exist. After all no sane man would ask someone this if they knew that person did not exist, but have to have some belief that they do exist.

      Gideon took his first steps in faith, but God proved to Gideon that he was hearing from God at each step. After Gideon defeated 135,000 of the enemy he then knew that God existed and that God had spoken to him.

      The Pharisees had faith is their faith, but their had put their faith in something that was not true and went to destruction. The disciples put their faith in Jesus and He revealed to them that He was God Almighty.

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      • #4
        Thanks for posting this, Lou.

        I'm learned in neither theoretical physics nor philosophy, but I watched some on TV.

        My first, unvarnished reaction to this kind of thing is positive, especially when stated by those in academia. Such a confession is a rare treat, like a ray of light after long gross darkness. Of course we believe Michio Kaku because we believe the Bible.

        But I have sober and real concerns that are far reaching.

        I like Michio Kaku, he is very personable, and I would rejoice to see him come to Christ. He doesn't go so far, though. I have seen him comment with open delight on the remarkable agreement between quantum physics (his forte) and Kabbalah. Therefore a group of physicists are actively collaborating with Kabbalistic rabbis. Sadly, this just seems natural. This situation supports an older observation that without divine revelation, exploring the unseen realm tends to lead one to monism (all are one). It's inherent in the philosophy that arises from quantum physics, which reduces everything to the quantum field where metaphysically, they say, "we are all one"; which reduces to "all is god"; this is monism, or pantheism.

        If we believe YHWH we know monism isn't true. God is holy. God and creation are separate, which is dualistic.

        I remind myself however that these people are celebrities, and likely not representative. On the contrary, celebrities are often selected and used to color and normalize consumer opinion. Science and consumerism are in cahoots. It's curiously telling that academia is easing its secular tyranny only in this area of the sciences. On the surface it may make sense, as theoretical physics deals with the invisible and intangible. But looks are often deceiving.

        Coincidentally comes the emergent development of technology touted as electronic psychedelics, or mind-hacking, done with VR (virtual reality prosthetics, and eventually implants). VR involves high-speed computing platforms, software, artificial intelligence, intensive network and cloud infrastructure, and of course commerce. Mind-hacking specializes in combining VR with biology to affect the senses and consciousness. There is a lot of buzz, and investments are surging in this niche. Consumers are being groomed to desire it. The market for it not only exists, it's hot.

        One can't help but connect the emergent tech trends to the longer term plan of Theosophy to induct the masses into the mysteries (aka "externalization of the hierarchy", man becoming god). Psychedelic drugs have long been employed in the mysteries, feeding man's desire for transcendent experiences. The induction is observably accelerating. Many people are eagerly embracing pagan concepts disguised as entertainment and science; while others are celebrating paganism openly. Glove, meet hand.

        Theoretical physics seems to me merely an aspect of the whole. I'm just compelled to show that the carnal minds of physicists are as captive to pagan ideology as any, and indeed they're all working towards a common goal: the apotheosis of man. An elaborate deception by an invisible hand, long in the making.

        I would very much like to see all of these folk come to Christ. I would not like to see esteemed experts and celebrities sliding into mysticism and drawing the world with them, but this seems to be what is happening.

        We should pray for them. The knowledge and wisdom of man gives a light that doesn't save. This only confirms to me that the Lord has mercy and grace on whom He chooses. The Holy Spirit reveals to and hides Himself from whomever He chooses. Salvation is of the Lord.
        Last edited by Baruch; January 8, 2018, 01:28 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Baruch View Post
          Thanks for posting this, Lou.

          I'm learned in neither theoretical physics nor philosophy, but I watched some on TV.

          My first, unvarnished reaction to this kind of thing is positive, especially when stated by those in academia. Such a confession is a rare treat, like a ray of light after long gross darkness. Of course we believe Michio Kaku because we believe the Bible.

          But I have sober and real concerns that are far reaching.

          I like Michio Kaku, he is very personable, and I would rejoice to see him come to Christ. He doesn't go so far, though. I have seen him comment with open delight on the remarkable agreement between quantum physics (his forte) and Kabbalah. Therefore a group of physicists are actively collaborating with Kabbalistic rabbis. Sadly, this just seems natural. This situation supports an older observation that without divine revelation, exploring the unseen realm tends to lead one to monism (all are one). It's inherent in the philosophy that arises from quantum physics, which reduces everything to the quantum field where metaphysically, they say, "we are all one"; which reduces to "all is god"; this is monism, or pantheism.

          If we believe YHWH we know monism isn't true. God is holy. God and creation are separate, which is dualistic.

          I remind myself however that these people are celebrities, and likely not representative. On the contrary, celebrities are often selected and used to color and normalize consumer opinion. Science and consumerism are in cahoots. It's curiously telling that academia is easing its secular tyranny only in this area of the sciences. On the surface it may make sense, as theoretical physics deals with the invisible and intangible. But looks are often deceiving.

          Coincidentally comes the emergent development of technology touted as electronic psychedelics, or mind-hacking, done with VR (virtual reality prosthetics, and eventually implants). VR involves high-speed computing platforms, software, artificial intelligence, intensive network and cloud infrastructure, and of course commerce. Mind-hacking specializes in combining VR with biology to affect the senses and consciousness. There is a lot of buzz, and investments are surging in this niche. Consumers are being groomed to desire it. The market for it not only exists, it's hot.

          One can't help but connect the emergent tech trends to the longer term plan of Theosophy to induct the masses into the mysteries (aka "externalization of the hierarchy", man becoming god). Psychedelic drugs have long been employed in the mysteries, feeding man's desire for transcendent experiences. The induction is observably accelerating. Many people are eagerly embracing pagan concepts disguised as entertainment and science; while others are celebrating paganism openly. Glove, meet hand.

          Theoretical physics seems to me merely an aspect of the whole. I'm just compelled to show that the carnal minds of physicists are as captive to pagan ideology as any, and indeed they're all working towards a common goal: the apotheosis of man. An elaborate deception by an invisible hand, long in the making.

          I would very much like to see all of these folk come to Christ. I would not like to see esteemed experts and celebrities sliding into mysticism and drawing the world with them, but this seems to be what is happening.

          We should pray for them. The knowledge and wisdom of man gives a light that doesn't save. This only confirms to me that the Lord has mercy and grace on whom He chooses. The Holy Spirit reveals to and hides Himself from whomever He chooses. Salvation is of the Lord.
          Baruch, as strange as what you post sounds, we might ought to take heed of movements toward theosophy or monism. Christians ought to be aware of what you said about physicists ("the carnal minds of physicists are as captive to pagan ideology as any") applies to everyone. Credentials do not remove gullibility. The opposite is often true, While credentials might remove the gullibility in the field of expertise, being an expert in one field may open one up to being more gullible in other areas because the expert usually thinks he is more intelligent and educated but may be uneducated in other fields. The classic example is medical doctors are terrible stock market investors and real estate investors.

          For me mathematical probability is strong evidence of divine superintendence (inspiration). However, expert non Christians believe the unity of the scriptures are a result of the selection process from many competing available texts where only the texts with common elements were selected. Christians attribute this process to inspiration and label it canonization.

          In making proofs about God or the Bible it is very important to understand the purpose of divine revelation and who receives it. Ultimately, it is every Christian who receives the divine revelation as recorded in the Bible. The importance of proofs will vary among Christians, but the vast majority receive revelation by trusting God rather than having the truth proved. It seems to me that if one is to be a faithful Christian he must accept through faith the Bible as divine revelation and not because of some manufactured proof.

          On the other hand, anything that causes as lost sinner or a doubting Christian to establish a faith relationship with God is apologetics - everything from divine tribulation to Michio Kaku. In my search for understanding sanctification (walking in the Spirit, filled with the Spirit, etc) I have recently observed in the Bible why the Gospel message spread so rapidly during the first three centuries. The gospel message spread because of proofs, but not the kind made by scientists. Currently, I am working on that presentation.

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          • #6
            You make some great points, Glen. I would add that experts can even look right at a thing in their expertise, and what they see is a pagan form, and accept it as truth.

            I came back to post a link to a video playlist that I created. It demonstrates this phenomenon very clearly. The first two videos is all it takes, but there is a large pile of them.

            The first one, less than a minute, is Richard Seed declaring rather forcefully that "we will become gods".

            The second one, about 15 minutes, features quotes from Kaku and others -- straight from the horse's mouth, it doesn't require any inference -- and some clips that make the strong connections between mysticism and what is being called Scientism.

            I recommend watching these videos in order. It is my hope they will cause the disciples of Jesus Christ to draw nearer to Him. Do no trust in the arm of fles...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Baruch View Post
              You make some great points, Glen. I would add that experts can even look right at a thing in their expertise, and what they see is a pagan form, and accept it as truth.

              I came back to post a link to a video playlist that I created. It demonstrates this phenomenon very clearly. The first two videos is all it takes, but there is a large pile of them.

              The first one, less than a minute, is Richard Seed declaring rather forcefully that "we will become gods".

              The second one, about 15 minutes, features quotes from Kaku and others -- straight from the horse's mouth, it doesn't require any inference -- and some clips that make the strong connections between mysticism and what is being called Scientism.

              https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...vT--fUwNGPfYjV
              Thanks for the replies Glen and Barry.

              Anyone who is so foolish and arrogant to believe that they can become God, makes it very hard to believe that they could be helped. But The Lord Jesus can save anyone who He desires.

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              • #8
                Kabbalistic Judaism is a mystical school of thought.
                Chabad is another term for this mysticism.
                These teachings are available from rabbi Tzvi Freeman at www.chabad.org
                Theses teachings were examined on a daily basis from about 2001 to 2006.
                This makes me familiar with their doctrines but not an expert.

                What scientists see in Kabbalistic Judaism is their own presumptions they bring to the ideas of Kabbalistic Judaism.
                All forms of mysticism lend itself to many interpretations.
                For scientists to see science in Kabbalistic Judaism is evidence of the scientists’ provincial perspective or their gullibility in not recognizing their own ideas as the interpreter of mysticism.

                I would suspect for Christians that the nail in the coffin for Kabbalistic Judaism should be the Kabbalistic doctrine that the Jew is the actual embodiment of the Torah in the same way as Christians understand Christ is the embodiment of God in the Incarnation. The Jew in Kabbalistic Judaism is the Torah –= Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy.

                Finding evidence in Kabbalistic Judaism for mathematics or physics is just ignorance in that mysticism is being converted to the reality as understood by scientists.

                These videos expose these fundamental mental errors. It is as if these scientists are duped by their own presuppositions. It is the doctrine of the New Age and not science.

                Baruch, I am very impressed that you have put together these videos. Your ability is not just amazing but really intimidating. How did you do this?
                Last edited by glen smith; January 8, 2018, 11:42 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Baruch View Post
                  You make some great points, Glen. I would add that experts can even look right at a thing in their expertise, and what they see is a pagan form, and accept it as truth.

                  I came back to post a link to a video playlist that I created. It demonstrates this phenomenon very clearly. The first two videos is all it takes, but there is a large pile of them.

                  The first one, less than a minute, is Richard Seed declaring rather forcefully that "we will become gods".

                  The second one, about 15 minutes, features quotes from Kaku and others -- straight from the horse's mouth, it doesn't require any inference -- and some clips that make the strong connections between mysticism and what is being called Scientism.

                  I recommend watching these videos in order. It is my hope they will cause the disciples of Jesus Christ to draw nearer to Him. Do no trust in the arm of fles...
                  Hi Barry,

                  That is quite a list of videos you link to. I have several questions for you about them:

                  1- Did you create these videos and is that your voice we hear in them ? It is a little different than your voice over the phone.

                  2- When I click on the link to the videos you recommend, it says that site does not exist. These videos looked very interesting, especially the one about aids and vaccines.

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                  • #10
                    Scientism is the name given to scientific presuppositions which function just as religion faith. I do not challenge this as being factual criticism of science.
                    However, it seems to me these videos make many nonfactual assumptions about tracing the historical influences on modern science. The speaker also seems to be ant-science and even hints at believing that the real world are pre-scientific as it would be with the views held previous to the Renaissance.

                    Referring back to my post #8. This post explains what seems a better explanation of what is actually happening in the minds of some scientists and the non- philosophical minds of the public. Rather than a satanic conspiracy from ancient mysticism the culprit is just faulty thinking and gullibility. You have heard that the easiest people for a magician to dupe are scientist? Remember the bending of spoons and forks through mental powers. It required a magician to demonstrate to scientist that bending spoons with mental powers was a hoax. Scientist could not figure it out even though the trick defied reality and the laws of physics about force.

                    It seems to me that theoretical physicist Michio Kaku is duped about his proof of God. Probability is not a measuring instrument for the existence of God – especially since “God is spirit.” Statistics and probability seem convincing to me and many others, but that is because we live in a physical world where impossible things just don’t happen. My favorite is the genealogies of the Old Testament. Given the possible options it is extremely unlikely that the writers of the Old Testament revelation, apart from Holy Spirit inspiration, could record the path through the genealogies to end with the Messiah. A concise presentation may be found in Philip Mauro, The Wonders of Bible Chronology.
                    I will print some excerpts next.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by glen smith View Post
                      Kabbalistic Judaism is a mystical school of thought.
                      Chabad is another term for this mysticism.
                      These teachings are available from rabbi Tzvi Freeman at www.chabad.org
                      Theses teachings were examined on a daily basis from about 2001 to 2006.
                      This makes me familiar with their doctrines but not an expert.

                      What scientists see in Kabbalistic Judaism is their own presumptions they bring to the ideas of Kabbalistic Judaism.
                      All forms of mysticism lend itself to many interpretations.
                      For scientists to see science in Kabbalistic Judaism is evidence of the scientists’ provincial perspective or their gullibility in not recognizing their own ideas as the interpreter of mysticism.

                      I would suspect for Christians that the nail in the coffin for Kabbalistic Judaism should be the Kabbalistic doctrine that the Jew is the actual embodiment of the Torah in the same way as Christians understand Christ is the embodiment of God in the Incarnation. The Jew in Kabbalistic Judaism is the Torah –= Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy.

                      Finding evidence in Kabbalistic Judaism for mathematics or physics is just ignorance in that mysticism is being converted to the reality as understood by scientists.

                      These videos expose these fundamental mental errors. It is as if these scientists are duped by their own presuppositions. It is the doctrine of the New Age and not science.

                      Baruch, I am very impressed that you have put together these videos. Your ability is not just amazing but really intimidating. How did you do this?
                      Hi, Glen. I didn't create the videos. I just created the list because they showed me something astounding that I wanted to help others see: the convergence of "science" and mysticism. This is something I saw in a fog some years ago. But the man who created the videos has done, as you rightly say, an amazing quality of research and edited the footage in a way that makes the message easy to see, over and over and over, in various manifestations.

                      I agree with your assessment on the scientists being deceived by their presuppositions about Kabbalah. I find it even more interesting that in those videos rabbis are quoted as seeing Kabbalah expressed in quantum physics! So it goes both ways.

                      I respect you for studying this subject even a little. I read that it's a difficult and confusing subject. (Jesus said of His own: You will drink any deadly thing and it will not harm you.)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lou Newton View Post

                        Hi Barry,

                        That is quite a list of videos you link to. I have several questions for you about them:

                        1- Did you create these videos and is that your voice we hear in them ? It is a little different than your voice over the phone.

                        2- When I click on the link to the videos you recommend, it says that site does not exist. These videos looked very interesting, especially the one about aids and vaccines.
                        No, Lou, I didn't create them and that's not my voice. :)

                        I'm not sure why you're having trouble. Is it this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBhWdDkmp94

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by glen smith View Post
                          Scientism is the name given to scientific presuppositions which function just as religion faith. I do not challenge this as being factual criticism of science.
                          However, it seems to me these videos make many nonfactual assumptions about tracing the historical influences on modern science. The speaker also seems to be ant-science and even hints at believing that the real world are pre-scientific as it would be with the views held previous to the Renaissance.

                          Referring back to my post #8. This post explains what seems a better explanation of what is actually happening in the minds of some scientists and the non- philosophical minds of the public. Rather than a satanic conspiracy from ancient mysticism the culprit is just faulty thinking and gullibility. You have heard that the easiest people for a magician to dupe are scientist? Remember the bending of spoons and forks through mental powers. It required a magician to demonstrate to scientist that bending spoons with mental powers was a hoax. Scientist could not figure it out even though the trick defied reality and the laws of physics about force.

                          It seems to me that theoretical physicist Michio Kaku is duped about his proof of God. Probability is not a measuring instrument for the existence of God – especially since “God is spirit.” Statistics and probability seem convincing to me and many others, but that is because we live in a physical world where impossible things just don’t happen. My favorite is the genealogies of the Old Testament. Given the possible options it is extremely unlikely that the writers of the Old Testament revelation, apart from Holy Spirit inspiration, could record the path through the genealogies to end with the Messiah. A concise presentation may be found in Philip Mauro, The Wonders of Bible Chronology.
                          I will print some excerpts next.
                          Yes, brother Glen, I don't agree with everything this man proposes. He's gone much farther than I would on some things, and come to strange conclusions. Pointedly, I disagree with flat earth theory and all the silliness that comes with it. I disagree that Copernican cosmology is "the lie", or a lie; it's just a useful model. I disagree that Copernican cosmology was selected by men to deceive the whole world centuries down the road; but I understand how, in retrospect, it can look that way to a person who's grown extremely skeptical.

                          Who deceives the world? The Devil. And the Devil can do nothing except God allow it.

                          There are very interesting connections between the ancient mystical "philosophies" and theoretical physics. Creation cycles (claims to account for evolution and the missing link), atomism, and now quantum mechanics. At their most benign these are presuppositions turned into scientific theories. Yet it's nowhere near benign. We can see the devastating results on society, as our little ones are being taught as if they are fact; no competition allowed, especially transcendent competition (God, intelligent design). Formally, scientists admit they are only theories. Evolution and an atomic worldview are taught as fact. They teach quantum theory as a science, and are building high-tech such as CERN and D-Wave, practical machines based on theoretical projections. These machines inform very powerful corporations and governments in the area of analytics: they are running AI on this tech, not knowing where the "solutions" come from. It looks to me like the further they go, the more they're delving into the unseen realm. And with quantum theory they admit they can't know, there is no way to prove, to arrive scientifically at the knowledge they seek. How ironic is that, and how is that any different from divination? The Bible warns against this, you end up contacting deceiving spirits. I could make a strong anecdotal case that the theory of how D-Wave works is indistinguishable from divination.
                          Last edited by Baruch; January 10, 2018, 02:58 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Baruch View Post

                            No, Lou, I didn't create them and that's not my voice. :)

                            I'm not sure why you're having trouble. Is it this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBhWdDkmp94
                            Thanks Barry.That links works to get to the video of the guy that recommends the 'curious life a flat earther" but when you click on the link that guy gives for the flat earth guy, it says there is "no site"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Baruch View Post
                              You make some great points, Glen. I would add that experts can even look right at a thing in their expertise, and what they see is a pagan form, and accept it as truth.

                              I came back to post a link to a video playlist that I created. It demonstrates this phenomenon very clearly. The first two videos is all it takes, but there is a large pile of them.

                              The first one, less than a minute, is Richard Seed declaring rather forcefully that "we will become gods".

                              The second one, about 15 minutes, features quotes from Kaku and others -- straight from the horse's mouth, it doesn't require any inference -- and some clips that make the strong connections between mysticism and what is being called Scientism.

                              I recommend watching these videos in order. It is my hope they will cause the disciples of Jesus Christ to draw nearer to Him. Do no trust in the arm of fles...
                              Hi Barry,

                              I watched : ATOMISM: The Occult Origins of Our "Atomic Age"..

                              I have some thoughts about it for others to consider:

                              1 - The video puts forth the thought that the origin of Atomism is from the occults. But proving a counterfeit exists ( and is from an evil source) is not evidence that the genuine does not exist and is from God. We have counterfeit US bills that are from evil sources, but there existence only proves that the genuine US bill also exists.

                              We have many churches that teach evil errors and doctrines. But that does not mean that Jesus is not real. ( But their example is used by atheists to claim that Jesus does not exist) Satan does not create anything, but he takes a truth and twists it to use it for evil. Satan will try to twist any truth about God and His creation.

                              2 - The reference to the new age teaching that atoms are life, is just a twisted teaching. Atoms do not contain life, but natural life is contained in the relationship of atoms. Just as men do not contain eternal life, but eternal life is contained with a relationship with Jesus. A very large group of atoms can contain natural life, just as a man and Jesus can contain eternal life.

                              The fact that new age religion uses atoms for evil, is not evidence that atoms were not created by God.

                              I am not even defending the belief that atoms make up our universe, but only saying I did not think the arguments this person presents are valid. But I am open to anyone showing me that they are valid.

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