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    Proverbs 31
    10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
    11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.
    12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
    13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
    14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.
    15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.
    16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.
    17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.
    18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.
    19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.
    20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
    21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.
    22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.
    23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.
    24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.
    25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.
    26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.
    27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.
    28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.
    29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.
    30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.
    31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.


  • #2
    That is my wife exactly. What a blessing she is. Thank you Jesus.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Baruch View Post
      Proverbs 31
      10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
      11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.
      12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
      13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
      14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.
      15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.
      16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.
      17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.
      18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.
      19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.
      20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
      21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.
      22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.
      23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.
      24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.
      25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.
      26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.
      27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.
      28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.
      29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.
      30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.
      31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.

      Red stones of the mineral, corundum (Al2O3 or aluminum oxide) are very hard rocks. Only diamond is harder among gemstones. Sapphire is the same mineral, only has other trace elements that make it blue instead of red.

      One can trade rubies for a lot of green paper, BUT red stones or green paper can not love you or care for you when you get very sick.

      Red stones can not keep you warm when it is cold or prepare warm food for you.

      Certainly a virtuous woman is worth far more than any ruby, and also it seems far more rare.

      I was able to purchase a red ruby of 5/8 of a carat. I am confident that stone still exists. It was not really hard to attain. But a virtuous woman is only attained at a much higher price ( she requires your love and devotion) and is far more rare; and also far more valuable.

      A truly virtuous woman will inspire you to love and good deeds. (only Godly deeds are good)

      Hebrews 10
      24And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds

      A women who is not virtuous will inspire everyone to evil deeds.

      So a virtuous woman will lead you to Christ and eternal life; while a woman who is not virtuous will lead you to evil and eternal death.

      Considering that how valuable is a virtuous woman ?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lou Newton View Post


        Red stones of the mineral, corundum (Al2O3 or aluminum oxide) are very hard rocks. Only diamond is harder among gemstones. Sapphire is the same mineral, only has other trace elements that make it blue instead of red.

        One can trade rubies for a lot of green paper, BUT red stones or green paper can not love you or care for you when you get very sick.

        Red stones can not keep you warm when it is cold or prepare warm food for you.

        Certainly a virtuous woman is worth far more than any ruby, and also it seems far more rare.

        I was able to purchase a red ruby of 5/8 of a carat. I am confident that stone still exists. It was not really hard to attain. But a virtuous woman is only attained at a much higher price ( she requires your love and devotion) and is far more rare; and also far more valuable.

        A truly virtuous woman will inspire you to love and good deeds. (only Godly deeds are good)

        Hebrews 10
        24And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds

        A women who is not virtuous will inspire everyone to evil deeds.

        So a virtuous woman will lead you to Christ and eternal life; while a woman who is not virtuous will lead you to evil and eternal death.

        Considering that how valuable is a virtuous woman ?

        Invaluable. How can you put a price on that which cannot be bought?

        Only God gives a good woman. I do not deserve the woman I have.

        I am reminded daily of how much I am loved by God every time I consider the wife He gave to me.

        And having a good virtuous woman makes life easier and more bearable.

        I know today almost anything can be purchased, but this is one of those remaining things that cannot be purchased.

        Once again I am very thankful to the Lord as I am the least deserving of a proverbs 31 wife.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Steve Hollander View Post


          Invaluable. How can you put a price on that which cannot be bought?

          Only God gives a good woman. I do not deserve the woman I have.

          I am reminded daily of how much I am loved by God every time I consider the wife He gave to me.

          And having a good virtuous woman makes life easier and more bearable.

          I know today almost anything can be purchased, but this is one of those remaining things that cannot be purchased.

          Once again I am very thankful to the Lord as I am the least deserving of a proverbs 31 wife.

          Amen Steve. I have spent two weekends at Steve house and I can tell you that his wife never stops working and she is very kind and generous. She treats Steve and his quests with kindness and respect. A very rare woman indeed.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lou Newton View Post
            Certainly a virtuous woman is worth far more than any ruby, and also it seems far more rare.

            I was able to purchase a red ruby of 5/8 of a carat. I am confident that stone still exists. It was not really hard to attain. But a virtuous woman is only attained at a much higher price ( she requires your love and devotion) and is far more rare; and also far more valuable.

            A truly virtuous woman will inspire you to love and good deeds. (only Godly deeds are good)

            Hebrews 10
            24And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds

            A women who is not virtuous will inspire everyone to evil deeds.

            So a virtuous woman will lead you to Christ and eternal life; while a woman who is not virtuous will lead you to evil and eternal death.

            Considering that how valuable is a virtuous woman ?
            Originally posted by Steve Hollander View Post


            Invaluable. How can you put a price on that which cannot be bought?

            Only God gives a good woman. I do not deserve the woman I have.

            I am reminded daily of how much I am loved by God every time I consider the wife He gave to me.

            And having a good virtuous woman makes life easier and more bearable.

            I know today almost anything can be purchased, but this is one of those remaining things that cannot be purchased.

            Once again I am very thankful to the Lord as I am the least deserving of a proverbs 31 wife.
            Amen, brothers! I appreciate your swelling words which echo the sentiments of these Proverbs. True words, and well worth the time and effort to express them, and read and preserve them.

            If men find such value in an earthly woman who is virtuous, and such a woman is very rare and worthy of every investment, how much more shall our Lord Jesus Christ value and invest in His bride?

            She did not exist, but in His mind and desire. He could have used His power and might and genius to design her, as in the story of Pygmalion.

            But He chose to form her out of an empty creation, a vain man; and of the mean materials that man and divine beings alike do not value, even despise; out of a living creation robbed through a devil's deceit, that sows evil and reaps only death; brought into new life by the selfless love of God; freed from the captivity of lusts, envies and deceits by His perfect will; wooed away from impurity by His pure and true spirit; proven by the challenges of a hard journey to leave home, and refined in the spirit by trials, to make her new home in His kingdom, to build a life there, and a family to love and nurture, help and defend and increase together.

            A woman of such value that He has sacrificed all that He has for her. There is nothing else like her. She is what she is because of what He has invested in her.

            The writer of these Proverbs likens the blessed husband to one who is known in the gates, and sits among the elders: he is one of few men of high calling.

            But the Lord our God is one: there is none other beside Him.

            Yet His bride has nothing to boast of her own: she could make and perfect herself. She is such a woman only because the Lord chose her, because of who He is and what He has done for her. He has taken her from mean stock, and given His own self to rescue her from destruction, perfected her, made Her holy with His holiness, and given her a place in eternity with Him. That place is reserved for a very rare, and hard won woman.

            We know in our humble hearts that we are undeserving of the Lord's grace, and every kindness and mercy flows out of His love, because of who He is, what He has done for us: that which we could not do but only He could do.

            The bride of our Lord Jesus Christ is such a woman because He deserves such a woman to complement His majesty.
            Last edited by Baruch; January 31, 2016, 11:11 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Baruch View Post



              Amen, brothers! I appreciate your swelling words which echo the sentiments of these Proverbs. True words, and well worth the time and effort to express them, and read and preserve them.

              If men find such value in an earthly woman who is virtuous, and such a woman is very rare and worthy of every investment, how much more shall our Lord Jesus Christ value and invest in His bride?

              She did not exist, but in His mind and desire. He could have used His power and might and genius to design her, as in the story of Pygmalion.

              But He chose to form her out of an empty creation, a vain man; and of the mean materials that man and divine beings alike do not value, even despise; out of a living creation robbed through a devil's deceit, so that sows evil and reaps only death; brought into new life by the selfless love of God; freed from the captivity of lusts, envies and deceits by His perfect will; wooed away from impurity by His pure and true spirit; proven by the challenges of a hard journey to leave home, and refined in the spirit by trials, to make her new home in His kingdom, to build a life there, and a family to love and nurture, help and defend and increase together.

              A woman of such value that He has sacrificed all that He has for her. There is nothing else like her. She is what she is because of what He has invested in her.

              The writer of these Proverbs likens the blessed husband to one who is known in the gates, and sits among the elders: he is one of few men of high calling.

              But the Lord our God is one: there is none other beside Him.

              Yet His bride has nothing to boast of her own: she could make and perfect herself. She is such a woman only because the Lord chose her, because of who He is and what He has done for her. He has taken her from mean stock, and given His own self to rescue her from destruction, perfected her, made Her holy with His holiness, and given her a place in eternity with Him. That place is reserved for a very rare, and hard won woman.

              We know in our humble hearts that we are undeserving of the Lord's grace, and every kindness and mercy flows out of His love, because of who He is, what He has done for us: that which we could not do but only He could do.

              The bride of our Lord Jesus Christ is such a woman because He deserves such a woman to complement His majesty.
              Very well put Barry.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Steve Hollander View Post

                Very well put Barry.
                Thanks, brother Steve. I read this passage at random and was amazed by it. I can also see that women should be honored by the passage and the comparison to Christ's bride, whose glory we know is beyond our ability to imagine, fit for Jesus Christ the King of Glory. This honorable role is sadly cast aside by many modern women. In God's perfect vision and wisdom he purposed this shadow even while judging Eve for her transgression in the garden.

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                • #9
                  Rev 21
                  1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
                  2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
                  3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
                  4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
                  5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
                  6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
                  7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
                  8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


                  9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
                  10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
                  11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

                  12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
                  13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
                  14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
                  15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
                  16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
                  17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
                  18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
                  19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
                  20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
                  21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
                  22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
                  23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
                  24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
                  25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
                  26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
                  27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

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                  • #10
                    Amen come quickly Lord Jesus.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Baruch View Post



                      Amen, brothers! I appreciate your swelling words which echo the sentiments of these Proverbs. True words, and well worth the time and effort to express them, and read and preserve them.

                      If men find such value in an earthly woman who is virtuous, and such a woman is very rare and worthy of every investment, how much more shall our Lord Jesus Christ value and invest in His bride?

                      She did not exist, but in His mind and desire. He could have used His power and might and genius to design her, as in the story of Pygmalion.

                      But He chose to form her out of an empty creation, a vain man; and of the mean materials that man and divine beings alike do not value, even despise; out of a living creation robbed through a devil's deceit, that sows evil and reaps only death; brought into new life by the selfless love of God; freed from the captivity of lusts, envies and deceits by His perfect will; wooed away from impurity by His pure and true spirit; proven by the challenges of a hard journey to leave home, and refined in the spirit by trials, to make her new home in His kingdom, to build a life there, and a family to love and nurture, help and defend and increase together.

                      A woman of such value that He has sacrificed all that He has for her. There is nothing else like her. She is what she is because of what He has invested in her.

                      The writer of these Proverbs likens the blessed husband to one who is known in the gates, and sits among the elders: he is one of few men of high calling.

                      But the Lord our God is one: there is none other beside Him.

                      Yet His bride has nothing to boast of her own: she could make and perfect herself. She is such a woman only because the Lord chose her, because of who He is and what He has done for her. He has taken her from mean stock, and given His own self to rescue her from destruction, perfected her, made Her holy with His holiness, and given her a place in eternity with Him. That place is reserved for a very rare, and hard won woman.

                      We know in our humble hearts that we are undeserving of the Lord's grace, and every kindness and mercy flows out of His love, because of who He is, what He has done for us: that which we could not do but only He could do.

                      The bride of our Lord Jesus Christ is such a woman because He deserves such a woman to complement His majesty.

                      Amen brothers. When I found myself loving a certain woman, I was compelled to show my love to her. I wanted her to know that she was the only one for me. But our love is flawed and The Love of The Lord is perfect.

                      The Lord was compelled to show His love to us even before He created this world. His unchanging plan has always been to shed His blood for us even before we existed. Why did The Lord Jesus plan it this way ? Because He wanted us to know that He loved us. What better way to reveal how much He loves us than to shed His blood on the cross for us.

                      Ephesians 1

                      4 Long ago, even before he made the world, God chose us to be his very own through what Christ would do for us; he decided then to make us holy in his eyes, without a single fault—we who stand before him covered with his love.5 His unchanging plan has always been to adopt us into his own family by sending Jesus Christ to die for us. And he did this because he wanted to!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lou Newton View Post


                        Amen brothers. When I found myself loving a certain woman, I was compelled to show my love to her. I wanted her to know that she was the only one for me. But our love is flawed and The Love of The Lord is perfect.

                        The Lord was compelled to show His love to us even before He created this world. His unchanging plan has always been to shed His blood for us even before we existed. Why did The Lord Jesus plan it this way ? Because He wanted us to know that He loved us. What better way to reveal how much He loves us than to shed His blood on the cross for us.

                        Ephesians 1

                        4 Long ago, even before he made the world, God chose us to be his very own through what Christ would do for us; he decided then to make us holy in his eyes, without a single fault—we who stand before him covered with his love.5 His unchanging plan has always been to adopt us into his own family by sending Jesus Christ to die for us. And he did this because he wanted to!
                        Someone may ask, where is the passage that is a witness to this passage in Ephesians:

                        Rev 13

                        8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

                        1 Peter 1


                        20 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.


                        Now many will try to say these verses do not mean what is plainly written. That is because it is against their traditions.


                        But Jesus decided to die for us before He created the world. If Jesus makes a promise, it is done. There is no way to reverse or stop His promise. Therefore this can be written as true in the Rev 13. Also God exists outside of time. So Christ's death of the cross took place before the creation when time is not taken in account.

                        NOW then if Jesus decided to die for us, before the beginning of time; and His deciding is the same as a promise, then His death was before the beginning of time.

                        So when did death first come. It came BEFORE the beginning and NOT after the sin of Adam.

                        Also we have this statement of fact by Peter; that no move of God starts with any man. So Adam did not cause God to move ( to die on the cross) but God was the one who decided and started this move of God.

                        2 Peter 1
                        20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things.
                        21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

                        God is not led by the actions of men, but men are led by God.

                        So the Bridegroom decided to die on the cross for His bride before the beginning of time. This was the whole purpose of the creation.

                        The creation declares the glory of God and the greatest glory of God is the cross.

                        So the DEATH of Christ was declared from the very beginning of the creation. The sin of Adam was not the first death, and even Adam did not die a natural death by his eating of the tree. But Adam died a spiritual death by his sin. His natural death came 900 years later.

                        The wages of sin are spiritual death.

                        But the sting of natural death is sin. It is the fact that we know we are going to die in the flesh that causes us to hang onto our life.

                        God came down from heaven and was born of a woman to become a man. He shed His blood on the cross to pay for our sins so we would know that He loves us and we then could live with Him forever as His bride.

                        Lou Newton
                        Last edited by Lou Newton; February 1, 2016, 05:24 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Yes and I feel the sting of death all the time. I am afraid of dieing so it causes me to sin.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Lou Newton View Post

                            Someone may ask, where is the passage that is a witness to this passage in Ephesians:

                            Rev 13

                            8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

                            1 Peter 1


                            20 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.


                            Now many will try to say these verses do not mean what is plainly written. That is because it is against their traditions.


                            But Jesus decided to die for us before He created the world. If Jesus makes a promise, it is done. There is no way to reverse or stop His promise. Therefore this can be written as true in the Rev 13. Also God exists outside of time. So Christ's death of the cross took place before the creation when time is not taken in account.
                            Amen. And a couple treasures from the Old Testament...

                            Pro 8
                            13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
                            14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
                            15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
                            16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
                            17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
                            18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
                            19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
                            20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:
                            21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.
                            22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
                            23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
                            24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
                            25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
                            26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
                            27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
                            28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
                            29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
                            30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
                            31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

                            32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
                            33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
                            34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
                            35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
                            36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

                            Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

                            (I just read all of Micah 5. Wow.)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Baruch View Post

                              Amen. And a couple treasures from the Old Testament...

                              Pro 8
                              13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
                              14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
                              15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
                              16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
                              17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
                              18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
                              19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
                              20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:
                              21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.
                              22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
                              23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
                              24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
                              25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
                              26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
                              27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
                              28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
                              29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
                              30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
                              31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

                              32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
                              33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
                              34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
                              35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
                              36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

                              Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

                              (I just read all of Micah 5. Wow.)

                              Thanks Barry. All scripture is so beautiful that one can not post any that not worthy of us to study carefully.

                              This passage focuses on wisdom NOT power. I have been to many churches that speak and seek power; and in fact it seems like the focus of their church.

                              But The Lord never once tells us to seek power. We are told over and over again to seek wisdom ( which is the ability to tell righteousness from evil, or truth from lies).

                              Many men make the focus of their interpretation of the creation story about the power of God. But God tells us He created the world by His wisdom, not His power.

                              Proverbs 3:19 By wisdom the LORD laid the earth’s foundations, by understanding he set the heavens in place;
                              20 by his knowledge the watery depths were divided, and the clouds let drop the dew.

                              I am reminded of a story a farmer friend told me about his grandfather. He was trying to muscle a cow to get to where he wanted it to go. The cow was winning, not him. His grandfather was watching and spoke up: he said the cow is stronger than us, but hopefully we are smarter than the cow. My friend said he has never forgot that advice. It is a much more successful way to deal with cattle.

                              Men do not over power elephants or lions or bears. They outsmart them. Animals can not build weapons, but men built guns.

                              Or we could study the art of judo. It does not try to over power an opponent, but it uses the power of the opponent to defeat him.

                              God is far wiser than men. He did not have to overpower His creation to do anything. He used His wisdom to get the creation to do what He wanted it to do.

                              Mere men claim they can "create" rubies" today. But I assure you that they can NOT do so. They can not even see the atoms to build a crystal structure to make the ruby. They simply use their knowledge about rubies to put the right elements in contact and then also put them in the right set of conditions ( temperature etc) and the natural forces in the atoms then form the right molecules for rubies and the natural forces in the molecules from the crystal structure of the ruby.

                              These rubies are actually superior to most of those formed in nature. They have far fewer impurities and fewer flaws in the crystal structure; so they are stronger and more beautiful. Man uses his wisdom to get the rubies to form themselves. So man did not make these rubies, but they were still made by the wisdom of God who created all matter and energy and also created all of the laws that they obey by His wisdom.

                              Even men can use this wisdom of God.

                              Once man learned the wisdom of God used in His natural laws, they can use His wisdom to make rubies.

                              If men would take the time and effort to seek God and His wisdom, they can also use His wisdom to attain the eternal life that they take so much effort to find.

                              Eternal life is NOT attained by any effort or power of man. It is attained by the wisdom to seek God and then trust and follow Him.

                              God did not save men by His power, but He saved men by His wisdom. He was so wise that the smartest created being ( Satan) could not even figure out what God was doing as it was taking place. God used the evil power of Satan and men, to use them, to nail Him to the cross. God used Satan's power to defeat Satan.

                              Think about this: God could have used His power to defeat Satan and make all men worship Him. BUT that would not have accomplished what God wanted. Instead God used wisdom to defeat Satan, and death, and sin. That way the men wise enough to trust in what God did, will know that God loves them, and so then, love Him in return.

                              Lou Newton
                              Last edited by Lou Newton; February 2, 2016, 03:39 PM.

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